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In this episode of the Way We Grow podcast, host Nick Wolfe engages with Dr. Tassa Saldi and Dr. Alfonso Garido-Lecca from TUMi Genomics. They discuss their backgrounds in plant science and cannabis research, focusing on the importance of understanding pathogens like hoplate viroid in cannabis cultivation. The conversation highlights the need for effective testing and prevention strategies for growers, emphasizing that knowledge and proactive measures can mitigate the risks associated with these pathogens. TUMi Genomics aims to provide comprehensive solutions for both home and commercial growers, helping them navigate the complexities of plant health and pathogen management. In this conversation, Tumi and Nick delve into the intricacies of cannabis cultivation, focusing on the importance of maintaining plant health, understanding viroids, and implementing effective pathogen prevention strategies. They discuss seed treatment methods, the significance of quarantine areas for new plants, and the role of vectors in pathogen transmission. The conversation also touches on the challenges of reusing substrates in living soil systems and the potential of tissue culture for pathogen remediation. Additionally, they explore the stigma surrounding cannabis use in professional settings and share personal experiences with different cultivars, emphasizing the social connections fostered through cannabis culture. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to TUMi Genomics and Guests 02:53 Backgrounds of Tasa and Alfonso: A Journey with Plants 11:46 Alfonso's Unique Path to Cannabis Science 17:56 Understanding Hops Late Viroid: Research and Implications 25:06 Identifying Symptoms of Hops Late Viroid in Cannabis 32:09 Impact of Hops Late Viroid on Flower Quality 37:51 Understanding Plant Symptoms and Pathogens 43:34 The Role of Tumi Genomics in Cannabis Cultivation 50:14 Innovations in Pathogen Testing Technology 55:39 Best Practices for Preventing Pathogen Spread 01:00:31 Effective Cleaning and Decontamination Methods 01:13:46 Understanding Pathogen Vectors 01:18:34 Cloning and Media Concerns 01:20:43 Living Soil and Viroid Management 01:27:22 Tissue Culture Insights 01:30:02 Cannabis Use and Stigma 01:36:25 Cultivar Preferences and Resistance 01:43:23 Memorable Cannabis Experiences