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Join John and leading energy researcher Aidan Morrison as they outline why nuclear power should be at the centre of Australia’s energy strategy. Aidan argues that modern nuclear technology is safe, and superior to renewables in terms of its reliability and cost. The discussion illuminates the misinformation which has characterised Australia's energy debate, calling for a shake-up in energy governance in order to ensure that policies are based on engineering and economic realities rather than distorted political narratives. Aidan also debunks the popular belief that Australia’s vast land and abundant sunshine make it uniquely suited for a wind and solar-powered grid, pointing out that these energy sources require massive infrastructure investments to be reliable. He suggests that ideological opposition and entrenched interests have prevented a rational discussion on nuclear power, despite its potential to provide affordable, clean, and secure energy. Aidan Morrison is a leading researcher into Energy Systems and currently the Director of Energy Research at the Centre for Independent Studies. In 2023 he exposed how the famous CSIRO report “GenCost” excluded vast costs required to integrate and firm renewables by treating them as “sunk” costs. In 2024 he was amongst the strongest voices calling for nuclear energy in Australia and was a leading critic of the ‘Integrated System Plan’ (or ISP): Australia’s blue-print for a transition to an energy system dominated by wind and solar. Following the conclusion of a recent Senate Inquiry into Australia’s energy planning and regulation, Aidan reached the conclusion that the ISP is “worse than useless” and declared that trust in Australia energy establishment is now so badly broken that a series of resignations will be required to restore the credibility and respect that regulatory organisations required to administer the energy system. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 00:00 Intro 01:00 Introducing Aidan Morrison 02:40 Relationship between cost of living and energy 08:23 The financial cost of de-carbonising electricity 14:44 Copying countries with failing systems 18:09 Failures of the integrated system plan 31:02 The broken system of renewables 42:38 How renewable are renewables? 49:20 Authorities taking power from citizens? 54:25 Distrust in the 'experts' 01:01:29 The problem of demonising nuclear power 01:09:21 We will never reach the projected targets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Resources from Aidan: • Casualties of the ISP: Why Grant King... • Why the Integrated System Plan is bey... • Unravelling AEMO's Integrated System ... • Shield of the ISP: Why would the Aust... • CSIRO's 'sunk cost' integration of re... • Casualties of the ISP: Why Grant King... • Abdicating from ISP accountability: W... • What’s missing from the CSIRO’s lates... • Is Australia building the lowest cost... • Is the CSIRO’s coal analysis neutral?... • Can we trust the energy transition? |... • Energy Transition Masquerade: The $36... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conversations feature John Anderson, former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia, interviewing the world's foremost thought leaders about today's pressing social, cultural and political issues. John believes proper, robust dialogue is necessary if we are to maintain our social strength and cohesion. As he puts it; "You cannot get good public policy out of a bad public debate." If you value this discussion and want to see more like it, make sure you subscribe to the channel here: / @johnandersonmedia And stay right up to date with all the conversations by subscribing to the newsletter here: https://johnanderson.net.au/contact/ Follow John on Twitter: / johnandersonac Follow John on Facebook: / johnandersonac Follow John on Instagram: / johnandersonac Support the channel: https://johnanderson.net.au/support/ Website: https://johnanderson.net.au/ Podcast: https://johnanderson.net.au/podcasts/ 2QH0QLLWRVNX5LFA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Follow Aidan on X: https://x.com/QuixoticQuant Follow the Centre for Independent Studies on X: https://x.com/CISOZ