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What does it really take to move from founder control to strategic optionality? In this episode of The Breakout CEO Podcast, Jeff Holman sits down with Heather Griffith Barber, founder of Queen of Wraps, to unpack the real decisions behind building a company that buyers take seriously. Heather shares her 18-year journey growing a business from a scrappy family operation into a multi-company platform that ultimately attracted an unsolicited private equity offer. Along the way, she breaks down the choices most founders never think about early enough; location strategy, loss of leaders, customer lifetime value, and the leadership shift required when a business starts to outgrow its founder. This conversation goes beyond tactics. It’s also about how women founders and CEOs build institutional credibility, create leverage, and design businesses that don’t depend on them to survive. You’ll hear: 👉Why “location” became a growth accelerator not a vanity move 👉How treating the core product as a loss leader unlocked long-term customer value 👉What happens when a founder steps back and the business gets stronger 👉How Heather navigated personal inflection points while maintaining long-term strategic focus 👉Why strategic optionality, not growth at all costs, ultimately led to a successful exit This episode is especially relevant for: ✔️Women founders scaling beyond the early hustle ✔️CEOs thinking about governance, leverage, and exit readiness ✔️Entrepreneurs building lifestyle businesses that still want real optionality ✔️Operators curious about what private equity actually looks for in founder-led companies Heather now focuses on helping more women founders gain confidence, knowledge, and long-term financial independence through entrepreneurship and exits, so success like this becomes normal, not novel. Watch to hear what it really takes to build a business that works with or without you. Check out Heather's work at https://www.heathergriffithbarber.com/ and https://www.buy-scale-sell.com/. Say hello to Heather! LinkedIn: / heathergriffithbarber Instagram: / buy_scale_sell Think you'd be a great guest on the show? Apply https://go.intellectualstrategies.com/ Get in Touch with Jeff Holman ⤵️ Website: https://www.intellectualstrategies.com/ Instagram: / holmantech Facebook: / jeff.holman.9678 LinkedIn: / holman Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Heather Griffith Barber 01:25 - The Origin Story of Queen of Raps 06:04 - Growing Up in an Entrepreneurial Family 11:01 - The Journey to Starting Queen of Raps 20:04 - The Evolution of the Business Model 23:01 - Navigating Early Business Challenges 24:58 - Marketing Strategies During Economic Downturns 27:52 - The Hamburger Analogy: Loss Leaders in Business 30:01 - Building Long-Term Customer Relationships 33:57 - Personal Inflection Points and Business Growth 38:56 - Life Changes and Business Adaptations 45:56 - The Decision to Sell: A New Chapter 47:43 - Navigating Family Dynamics in Business Exits 49:59 - The Villain Origin Story: Financial Freedom and Personal Growth 51:22 - The Importance of Choice in Relationships 53:21 - Breaking Free from Golden Handcuffs 58:15 - Empowering Women Through Financial Independence 01:01:34 - The Vision for Future Generations ➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖ The Breakout CEO is a podcast for growth-stage business leaders: founders, CEOs, and executive advisors who are scaling companies, navigating inflection points, and leading through rapid growth. Hosted by Jeff Holman, CEO advisor, legal strategist, and founder of Intellectual Strategies, the podcast features 30-45 minutes of insight-packed episodes with innovative entrepreneurs, scaling CEOs, expert operators, and CEO coaches behind high-growth ventures.