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Damian Kelty-Stephen is a cognitive scientist and psychologist. What if cognition was not limited to neurons and brains, but rather everything from cells to molecules to groups of people could all do cognition? In this podcast, learn about the intelligence capacities of organisms with no neurons, how scientists are re-thinking DNA's role in the body, how even molecules and proteins have a kind of cognition, radical ways to build computers, archetypes and patterns instantiating unconscious influence across individuals, new perspectives on how evolution works, and more... Timestamps: 00:00 Intelligence in Single Cell Organisms 00:02:15 Michael Levin & New Perspectives on DNA 05:25 What does DNA Actually Do? 07:54 DNA Can't Encode for All Intelligence 09:39 Weird Competencies of DNA 15:20 Everything has Agency (to a degree) 18:08 False Subjective-Objective Dichotomy 19:38 The Reality of Myths and Archetypes 23:20 Cognition in Groups and Societies 26:20 How Cognition Works: Generalizing Cognition from Physics to Brains 36:08 Alan Turing's Strange Ideas and Evolution of Computing 38:11 The Nature of Symbols and Continuous Flows 41:40 Self-Organization and Symbolic Structures 43:35 Turing's Mercury Computer 50:02 Cognition and Computation: A Dual Perspective 56:10 The Interplay of Genes, Cognition, and Evolution 01:00:57 Understanding Consciousness and Experience 01:12:58 Current Research and Future Directions in Neuroscience Find Damian: Our previous podcast: • Collective Intelligence, Swarms, and Multi... Website: https://sites.google.com/site/foovian/ Find me: X: https://x.com/jack_roycroft Substack (where I'll be writing soon): https://substack.com/@jackroycroftsherry