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Today on Real Talk, we’re sitting down with someone who has always carried an uncommon capacity for perspective — and for people. Gracie is currently a Solutions Engineer at Lucid Software, a global leader in visual collaboration whose platforms — Lucidchart, Lucidspark, and Lucidscale — help teams clarify complexity and align around a shared vision. It’s fitting work for someone who has long possessed the ability to see a room from every angle at once. Long before stepping into the world of enterprise solution delivery, Gracie was the kind of student leader who could hold the student perspective, the faculty perspective, the donor perspective, the administrative perspective — and honor each one without diminishing the others. At the University of Utah - David Eccles School of Business, where she completed her degree in Computer and Information Systems Security, she served as Vice President of the Student Alumni Board — cultivating philanthropy, strengthening alumni relationships, and building a culture of belonging that extended far beyond a single campus moment. Her path also includes earning a business degree from Utah State University - Jon M. Huntsman School of Business, becoming a Certified ScrumMaster through Scrum Alliance, serving as a missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and helping found and financially steward a campus organization rooted in community and connection. But titles only tell part of the story. What distinguishes Gracie is not simply her résumé — it’s her instinct to build bridges. She leads with humor. She listens with compassion. She speaks with clarity. In technical spaces and human spaces alike, she brings an open hand — someone who can translate complexity without condescension, who can advocate without alienating, who can build systems and belonging at the same time. She is, in every sense, a global thinker — not because she’s traveled everywhere, but because she has always been able to think beyond herself. And that is a rare gift. Today, we talk about perspective, leadership, community-building in technical spaces, and what it means to see — and help others see — the bigger picture. Let’s dive in.