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How does life shift when you lose the only person who shared your beginnings — your earliest memories, your inside jokes, your sense of home? In this tender and illuminating conversation, host Nina Rodriguez sits down with Dr. Angela Dean, a licensed psychologist, thanatologist, and founder of The Broken Pack™—an organization and podcast created to validate and support adults grieving the loss of a sibling. After the unexpected death of her brother, Tony, Dr. Dean channeled her grief into advocacy, research, and community-building for those whose pain is often unseen. Together, Nina and Angela explore the unique nature of sibling loss, including how it impacts family dynamics, identity, and belonging, and why it remains one of the most overlooked forms of grief. Angela shares the story behind The Broken Pack™, drawing parallels between the way wolves mourn a lost member and how humans experience the reorganization of their “pack” after a sibling’s death. The conversation moves through topics like grief expression, communication styles within families, the evolution of grief theory, and the power of enfranchising what has long been disenfranchised. This episode invites listeners to reflect on the bonds that continue after loss, the healing potential of language and connection, and the importance of community in tending to sibling grief. ============= TIMESTAMPS ============= 0:05 Dr. Angela Dean, The Broken Pack™ and wolves 5:12 Changing family dynamics after sibling loss 7:15 Embracing grief talk 9:26 Therapy, thanatology, and disenfranchised grief 16:14 What's unique about sibling loss? 23:12 Becoming an "only child" after sibling loss 25:52 Talking about them in present tense 27:42 Angela and Tony 31:43 Holidays & Traditions after Sibling Loss 33:30 Navigating sibling loss as a therapist, and grieving styles 36:47 Is there a "wrong" way to grieve? 40:35 A podcast for those impacted by sibling loss 43:28 The Broken Pack™ movement 46:55 The past, present, and future of grief support 52:00 Grief reminds us we only have now & final thoughts ============= Key Takeaways ============= Sibling loss is one of the most underrecognized yet identity-shaping forms of grief. After a sibling dies, family systems shift; roles, dynamics, and unspoken bonds all reorganize. Grieving styles differ, even within the same family; compassion and communication can help bridge those differences. The metaphor of The Broken Pack™ reminds us that when one member of the “pack” dies, the structure changes forever, but connection endures. Disenfranchised grief (grief that society doesn’t fully acknowledge) can deepen isolation; naming it helps restore dignity and belonging. Theories of grief are evolving, from linear “stages” to models that honor ongoing bonds, meaning-making, and the coexistence of love and loss. Community and conversation are vital to healing; grief needs witnesses, not fixes. The conversation closes with a reminder that even when our “pack” is broken, love continues to ripple outward through story, memory, and connection. ============= Guest: Angela Dean, PsyD, FT ============= Licensed psychologist, thanatologist, podcaster, sibling grief specialist Creator of The Broken Pack™ Website: https://thebrokenpack.com/ / thebrokenpack https://www.facebook.com/BrokenPack/?... ============= Hosted by: Nina Rodriguez ============= Creator of Grief and Light, Grief Guide Website: https://www.griefandlight.com/ Follow on Social: / griefandlight Resting Grief Face on Substack: https://griefandlight.substack.com/ =============== Grief Support Resources for the Road: =============== Grief Tending Toolkit: https://griefandlight.myflodesk.com/g... Access our online community: https://grief-and-light-community.mn.... Thank you for listening! Please share with someone who may need to hear this. Disclaimer: griefandlight.com/safetyanddisclaimers