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In this episode of Open Matters, Richard Brock speaks with Thorsten Behrens, Tor Lillqvist & Jan Holesovsky - the three principal engineers behind the new Collabora Office release, about what it really means to move a complex application from the browser to the desktop. They explain how Collabora Online has been transformed into a native desktop app that runs entirely locally while preserving the same user interface and architecture, and why this approach is fundamentally different from simply wrapping a web app. The conversation explores the technical and conceptual challenges of cross-platform software, the limitations of browser environments, lessons learned from earlier mobile ports, and the importance of reusing a shared core across web, desktop, and mobile. Along the way, the engineers reflect on portability, performance, security, and developer experience, revealing why building truly cross-platform software in many cases is difficult - and how they succeeded. 🔔 Subscribe for more discussions on open-source tech! iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4frqRzV... RSS: https://www.collaboraonline.com/feed/... The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of Collabora Productivity or its affiliates. The content is provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered official guidance or fact-checked technical documentation. 00:00 Podcast intro 00:59 Guest introductions 03:57 High level overview of browser-desktop release 06:00 What are the different layers of an application? 08:09 What are the limitations of an app in a browser? 10:15 What will the desktop application "feel" like? 11:18 Browser-based vs. desktop cross-platform support 13:10 Comparisons porting to mobile app and porting to desktop 16:35 Changing the wheels on a car? 19:12 Was there a "eureka" moment? 20:31 Are web browsers the best environment for cross-platform support? 23:31 Can you port it to anything? 24:33 Why did you want to do this? 25:34 How do you describe your work to non-technical friends?