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We were blessed to have Matthieu Pagaeu join us in The Reversion Book Club for an open discussion and Q&A on his book The Language of Creation. Our in-depth discussion covered a range of topics including the symbolic reading of Scripture, pre-modern cosmology, conspiracy theories in the age of algorithms, and the spiritual dangers of the modern materialist worldview. Check out Matthieu's excellent book, The Language of Creation: Cosmic Symbolism in Genesis - https://amzn.to/3ZOSf4a Become a member of The Reversion Book Club to read more books with us and gain access to upcoming live Q&A's and meetings: https://thereversion.co/book-club Shop for merch: https://shop.thereversion.co Donate to support my work: https://shop.thereversion.co/pages/do... All my links: https://awestgate.xyz 00:00 – Welcome & Introduction to Mathieu Peugeot and The Language of Creation 01:10 – How Matthieu developed a symbolic lens 07:00 – René Guénon: logical symbolism vs. random occult associations 09:20 – Limits of Guénon, developing a “caveman mind,” and the influence on Fr. Seraphim Rose 15:00 – Symbolic reading of “outer space,” aliens, and outer darkness 17:50 – Turning death/attacks into renewal through Christ (without thanking the enemy) 21:00 – Distinction between theurgy/magic and man’s true mediating role 25:00 – Magic arises from exile; miracles vs. magic (Moses & Pharaoh’s magicians) 31:50 – Preparing for false miracles & technology in end-times deception 44:00 – Digital IDs, migration narratives, and developing “snake vision” without becoming the snake 01:06:00 – Be wise as serpents, harmless as doves; judging trees by their fruit 01:17:00 – The Cross as tree of knowledge turned into tree of life through Christ 01:32:00 – Solomon’s gold, subtle reality, dreams, and the mark-of-the-beast thread 01:39:00 – Orthodox warnings on dreams (Elder Thaddeus, St. John Climacus) 01:49:00 – Dangers of lucid dreaming & carrying dream logic into waking life 01:57:00 – Video games, simulations, and blurring day/night realms (Sabbath as sacred overlap) 02:12:00 – Closing thanks, where to find Mathieu, and final thoughts on returning to reality & church