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Is the phrase ‘white privilege’ increasingly out of touch? The received mainstream wisdom has generally described Britain as a white majority society in which the non-white community are invariably oppressed, discriminated against or overlooked. But a new report from the think tank Policy Exchange paints a complicated picture of multicultural Britain, showing that, actually, the experiences of ethnic minorities can’t all be grouped into one, ‘non-white’ label. In fact, minorities such as British-Indians and the British-Chinese consistently outperform the white majority, even those who are wealthier. In this no-holds-barred interview, the broadcaster and author Trevor Phillips talks to The Spectator’s assistant editor Cindy Yu about race in modern Britain. What do the summer’s riots tell us about the real problems of integration in this country? Is the right better at dealing with the nuances of race and class than the left? And why is it that the white majority are increasingly left behind? // CHAPTERS 00:00 – Introduction 01:06 – The findings of the Policy Exchange report on 'Modern Britain' 04:55 – Integration success stories: Indian and Chinese immigrants 09:34 – The 'white privilege' lie and the Southport riots 12:45 – Why the West gets the 'best of the best' immigrants 18:25 – Labour's disintegrating migrant coalition 20:59 – The secret to Kemi Badenoch's conservative appeal 26:04 – Why liberal democracy is in crisis 31:57 – The future of minority communities in Britain Labour's disintegration migrant coalition Why the Tories // SUBSCRIBE TO THE SPECTATOR Get 12 issues for £12, plus a free £20 John Lewis/Waitrose voucher https://www.spectator.co.uk/tvoffer // FREE PODCASTS FROM THE SPECTATOR Hear more from The Spectator's journalists on their podcasts, covering everything from the politics of the UK, US and China, to religion, literature, lifestyle and more. https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcasts/ // FOLLOW US / spectator / officialspectator / the-spectator / spectator1828 / thespectatormagazine Theme song written and performed by Jon Barker © 2020 Jonathan Stewart Barker Publisher Jonathan Stewart Barker 100%, administered by prsformusic.com Recording © 2020 Jonathan Stewart Barker 100%, administered by ppl.com