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Part One - In April 2024, during the Cultivating the Jewel of Mindfulness Retreat at Dharma Treasure in Cochise Stronghold, Har-Prakash Khalsa interviewed special guest Shinzen Young. 00:00 – Photo: Shinzen emerges from the mud hut at Dharma Treasure 00:17 – August 7th, 2024, is Shinzen’s 80th birthday 00:44 – A commitment to a life of practice 2:15 – First time sitting on the cushion, Yamada Mumon’s temple, pretending to meditate 4:20 – 100-day commitment, Mt Kōya Ordination, saying goodbye to space-time concerns 7:18 – Beginning to “teach” at Mt Kōya, Thích Thiên-Ân, learning Vietnamese, and becoming the Abbot of Vices 12:24 – Shinzen and Brian Victoria (Zen at War) guided public meditations, answering questions 15:15 – Ed Wortz gives Shinzen a custom-built bio-feedback device with a NASA logo and begins giving regular retreats in Tucson 19:40 – The efficiency, reach, and convenience of online retreats 22:25 – An intersectional skillset towards human survival, flourishing, and childhood’s end for our species 26:00 – Communicating through smell and taste, gundakuta, the tenzo, and Arthur C Clark 29:48 – Experimenting under the radar, being eccentric 33:48 – Many individuals and communities contributed to the UM approach 34:28 – Meets Jay Sanguinetti, ultrasonic neuromodulation research starts 38:45 – Shinzen not being Buddhist enough for the U.S army 41:58 – A $10,000 budget split between three labs 43:45 – Equanimity and AI for mainstreaming mindfulness 47:08 – In 1995, begins to build a virtual, interactive Shinzen 50:55 – Joins UCLA computer club, learns how to flowchart, and uses primitive telephony technology 53:30 – The new AI technology and everyone has a team of masters 24-7 54:44 – Har-Prakash summarises a few interview themes 58:50 – Being sonicated hundreds of times, and the parameters of sonification, and ultrasound replacing pharmaceuticals 1:02:24 – Scientists experimenting on themselves, Shinzen’s second sonification and perception after 1:09:10 – Klistamanas and suspension of the “turn toward and lock” of the storehouse consciousness 1:12:15 – 198 more sonications, and sonicating a new versus an experienced meditator 1:15:15 – What the new AI contributes. 1:16:12 – Upaya with new meditators, Manpuku-ji temple, the tea ceremony, samurai, and the Native American pipe ceremony 1:24:30 – Word Power, mindful prompting, equanimity for developing mindful communication, and a universal grammar for all symbolic systems of communication anywhere in the multiverse 1:28:50 – Equanimity, the new AI, and growing up as a species. 1:30:42 – When might we expect the portable version of sonication and virtual Shinzen? Part Two - In June of 2024, as a follow-up to their interview, Har-Prakash asked Shinzen to share his training and ordination documents from 1970 at Mount Kōya (高野山, Kōya-san) in Japan. 1:32:22 – Photo: Shinzen’s Mt Kōya Ordination Certificate 1:32:34 – Shinzen translates the Japanese kanji 1:34:20 – He arrived in July and his ordination date was Nov. 9th in the 45th year of the Showa reign (1970) 1:37:24 – The current Abbot holding the page where Shinzen is recorded in the Shingon lineage 1:37:40 – A close-up of the page with Shinzen’s entry and the month-by-month documentation of his training and initiations