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AI agents are moving at machine speed. Security teams are overloaded. How do you protect identity and access in a world that won’t slow down? In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Ofir Stein, CTO and Co-Founder of Apono, to unpack how identity and access management must evolve in the age of AI agents. From cloud transformation lessons to dynamic access controls, Ofir explains: • Why AI adoption is fundamentally different from the cloud shift • The growing risk of non-deterministic AI agents • How prompt injection mirrors social engineering • What “zero standing privilege” really means • Why 100% security doesn’t exist — and what to do instead • How to reduce friction between security and productivity • Practical advice for enterprises and small businesses adopting AI tools If your organization is struggling with AI governance, privilege access management (PAM), or balancing speed with security, this conversation is essential. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction & disclaimer 01:10 – Ofir’s background: From Israeli Air Force infrastructure to Apono 03:25 – How AI adoption differs from the cloud transformation 05:56 – Human vs. non-human identities 07:00 – Why AI agents are different (non-deterministic decisions at machine speed) 08:44 – Zero standing privilege explained 11:22 – The friction between security and productivity 14:37 – Expanding identity controls into AI agents 19:12 – Moving from identity to intent-based enforcement 23:24 – Prompt injection vs. social engineering 27:27 – Agent “blast radius” and risk framing 31:24 – Why security teams push back (overload is real) 35:56 – You can’t block AI — it’s already happening 37:38 – Advice for small businesses navigating AI trust 38:33 – Standards, protocols, and optimism for the future 🎙 About Our Guest Ofir Stein is the CTO and Co-Founder of Apono (https://apono.io) , a modern access security platform focused on dynamic privilege access and risk-based identity management. With over 20 years in infrastructure and security, Ophir has witnessed the evolution from on-prem systems to cloud-native environments — and now to AI-driven architectures. 🔐 About The Cyber Mettle Podcast Hosted by cybersecurity leader Omar Sangurima and attorney Alyson Laderman, The Cyber Mettle Podcast explores the intersection of cybersecurity, business resilience, law, and emerging technology. We are not your lawyer or your cybersecurity provider, but we are here to help you think critically about resilience in a rapidly changing digital world. 📌 Connect with Apono https://apono.io Keywords AI agents security Identity and access management Zero standing privilege Privilege access management (PAM) Prompt injection security AI governance for enterprises Dynamic access controls Agentic AI risk Non-deterministic AI Cloud security evolution Cybersecurity podcast 2026 Apono security platform #Cybersecurity #AI #AIAgents #IdentityManagement #ZeroTrust #PrivilegeAccess #CyberMettle #SecurityLeadership #CloudSecurity #TechLeadership