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Uri Avnery - Abdel Nasser's Arab-Israeli peace initiative (170/315)

To listen to more of Uri Avnery’s stories, go to the playlist:    • Uri Avnery (Social activist)   Uri Avnery (1923-2018) was an Israeli writer, journalist and peace activist. He was editor-in-chief of the weekly news magazine "HaOlam HaZeh" and founded the Gush Shalom peace movement. [Listener: Anat Saragusti; date recorded: 2017] TRANSCRIPT: I do not think I spoke about Nasser's last peace initiative. I had a very close friend, a French journalist of Egyptian-Jewish origin named Eric Rouleau. His real name was Rafoul, but Rafoul sounded too Jewish, so in France he adopted the name Eric Rouleau, a lovely French name. He was head of the Middle East Department of "Le Monde" newspaper which was absolutely the most important French newspaper during that period. And Eric Rouleau, as head of the Middle East desk, was a very important man. I made friends with him - I met him at a conference - I made friends with him, and we met quite often. He was really the expert on Egyptian affairs. The Egyptians welcomed him with open arms. He supported Nasser and interviewed him many times. There was in Egypt at that time an important man named Hassanein Heikal, editor of the most influential Egyptian newspaper, "Al Ahram". And this person, Heikal, was very close to Abdel Nasser, so he would arrange for Rouleau to get occasional interviews with Abdel Nasser. One day, in 1970 − before Nasser's death − Rouleau called me and said that I should come to Paris, he had something for me. I flew to Paris. He told me, 'Listen, I had a very long interview with Abdel Nasser, which we divided into two parts: one was Arab matters, and the second part was the relationship with Israel and other issues. During the second part of this interview, Nasser spoke about peace with Israel. Israel will return the territories it occupied, the Sinai Peninsula, and he is ready to make peace, including comprehensive diplomatic relations and economic relations, which is the main thing, and he is ready for peace. I promised him I would let him review my article prior to publication and he approved the first part, but asked me not to publish the second part. But I have the recording of the second part. I think it is of historical importance, and I am willing to give you this tape so that you can show it to the government of Israel under condition of absolute secrecy'.