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What happens when nonprofits stop treating donors like transactions and start treating them like true partners? In this episode of The Responsive Lab, Carly Berna and Scott Holthaus sit down with Marc Stein, Chief Philanthropy Officer at Jews for Jesus, to explore how relationship-first fundraising works in practice and how it drives sustainable growth. Marc shares how his team reshaped portfolio strategy, redefined success metrics, built trust through transparency, and scaled personal engagement without burning out fundraisers. Links from the episode: • Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: / marcstein • Learn more about Jews for Jesus: https://jewsforjesus.org/ 🎧 Subscribe to the podcast: virtuous.org/podcast 📌 Chapters 00:00 – Intro 04:27 – Get to know Marc 12:37 – Shifting to a relationship-first fundraising approach 17:50 – Balancing relationships and revenue goals 25:26 – Maintaining donor relationships amid staff changes 30:38 – Building trust through transparency 36:48 – Scaling relationship management with technology 45:12 – Mystery question