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Jenn Chase, CMO of SAS, joins us to share how one of the world’s most established AI and analytics companies is reinventing its brand. From launching SAS’s first brand campaign in 25 years to shifting the organisation from performance-led to brand-led thinking, Jenn walks through what it takes to drive meaningful change inside a founder-led business. We also discuss how COVID reshaped the brand, why SAS is leaning into humour, the decision to sponsor Liverpool FC, and where AI is having the biggest impact on marketing today. Plus, Jenn shares leadership lessons, the skills every modern CMO needs, and how to build a great culture. Timestamps 00:00 - Start 01:00 - What is SAS? 02:11 - Being a founder led business after 50 years 04:38 - Being at the company for 27 years 06:03 - How Jenn became CMO of SAS 07:57 - How COVID changed the brand forever 08:33 - Launching their first brand campaign in 25 years 09:22 - Convincing the business to switch from performance to brand 10:45 - Creating an effective relationship with the finance team 14:31 - What did the business think of the first brand campaign in 25 years? 17:22 - How did they manage the effectiveness of their brand campaign? 22:04 - Why their new campaign leans into humour 24:28 - Why SAS decided to sponsor Liverpool FC 27:06 - How to sell in a big idea to an organisation? 32:16 - Where is AI having the biggest impact in marketing? 36:25 - Leadership advice from Brene Brown 39:54 - Skills to be a successful CMO 42:59 - What creates a great culture 45:12 - How big a change will AI search be? 47:08 - The 95:5 rule Subscribe to the newsletter: https://newsletter.uncensoredcmo.com Subscribe to the podcast: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/035E3OR... Follow us: Jon on LinkedIn: / uncensoredcmo Jon on X: https://x.com/uncensoredcmo Instagram: / uncensoredcmo TikTok: / uncensoredcmo