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In this thought-provoking episode of The Business Elevation Show – Where Good Matters, Chris Cooper is joined by Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent and former Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioural Analysis Program. Robin’s career took him into some of the highest-stakes environments imaginable — recruiting spies, working in counterintelligence, and navigating extreme human complexity. Yet, as this conversation reveals, his work has never been about manipulation or persuasion. Instead, it has always been about trust, psychological safety, and understanding human behaviour at its deepest level. Together, Chris and Robin explore what it truly means to build unbreakable alliances — in leadership, business, families, communities, and even across ideological divides. They discuss why influence is the wrong goal, how calm and context help us navigate chaos, and why creating environments where people feel safe is the foundation for innovation, collaboration, and progress. This is an episode for leaders, changemakers, and anyone seeking to communicate more authentically, lead more consciously, and contribute more meaningfully in a complex world.