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In a candid conversation with Shuja Nawaz, author of the seminal book on Pakistan USA Relationships., "The Battle for Pakistan: The Bitter US Friendship and a Tough Neighborhood" we cover a vast range of issues. Shuja has painstakingly, meticulously, forensically and at times, controversially, gone deep inside "who said and did what, why and to what effect" in telling this blow by blow account of this tumultuous, tempestuous, "we did, they did", type relationship, from both perspectives. This conversation and the book is a must read / hear read for everyone with stakes in the relationship between the two countries. Political leaders, policy makers, military leaders, researchers, students and anyone trying to understand this difficult relationship and what it may take for it to remain on track, whatever this "remaining on track" may mean to both sides. Perhaps the best book written to date on the subject in the Bob Woodwardsian mold!