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In this episode of the Meridian Point Podcast, I sit down with Johanna Rothman—the "Pragmatic Manager"—to discuss why most agile transformations are just surface-level theater and what real organizational disruption looks like. Johanna is the author of over 20 books including "Behind Closed Doors: Secrets of Great Management," "Manage It!," and the Modern Management Made Easy trilogy. She's spent decades helping leaders and teams navigate the messy reality of product development and organizational change. In this conversation, we explore: ✅ The "Agile Veneer" - recognizing when organizations focus on individuals over teams ✅ Resource efficiency vs. flow efficiency - why cost accounting thinking prevents agility ✅ Why performance management is "theater applied to cost of goods sold" ✅ The two most damaging management myths: 100% utilization and "if you're not typing, you're not working" ✅ Feedback loops as the essence of agility - think in minutes, not months ✅ AI and vibe coding - why we're offloading the wrong things ✅ Inch pebbles: The secret to avoiding the 90% done problem ✅ Why stand-ups might be useless if teams are truly collaborating ✅ Self-management first - how leaders' reactions are magnified ✅ The writing discipline: morning pages, word count tracking, and 15-minute minimums Key Takeaways: Optimize up for an overarching goal instead of managing individual performance Measure wait time in organizations - it outweighs work time Finish something every day or two for truly short feedback loops Collaborate with humans AND AI, don't just offload to AI Leaders must manage themselves before managing others Connect with Johanna Rothman: 🌐 Website: https://jrothman.com 📧 Newsletter: The Pragmatic Manager 📚 Books: Available on Amazon, Leanpub, and her website store 💼 Blog: https://createadaptablelife.com Connect with Kumar: LinkedIn: / kumardattatreyan Website: https://agilemeridian.com About the Meridian Point Podcast: Hosted by Kumar Dattatreyan and the Agile Meridian team, this podcast explores stories of disruption and how they lead to innovation during times of change. We dive deep into how leaders, teams, and organizations can disrupt outdated mental models and behaviors to thrive in uncertain times. 🔔 Subscribe for weekly episodes on leadership, agile transformation, and organizational change 👍 Like this video if you're tired of fake agile! 💬 Comment below: What management myth needs to be disrupted in your organization? Disruption Playlist: • Meridian Point #AgileTransformation #ManagementConsulting #Leadership #OrganizationalChange #ProjectManagement #LeanThinking #DisruptionPodcast #JohannaRothman #MeridianPoint 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/57031712...