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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. #GOTOcon #GOTOunscripted https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/362 Randy Shoup - SVP Engineering at Thrive Market Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Randy https://bsky.app/profile/randyshoup.b... / randyshoup https://x.com/randyshoup https://github.com/randyshoup-thrive / randyshoup Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumbl... / charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Links https://se-radio.net/2008/09/episode-... • Minimum Viable Architecture • Randy Shoup ... • Moving Fast At Scale • Randy Shoup • GOTO ... • Building Evolutionary Architectures • Rebe... • When To Use Microservices (And When Not To... • Modular Monoliths • Simon Brown • GOTO 2018 • Effective Microservices in a Data-Centric ... • Working Effectively with Legacy Code • Mic... • Pragmatic Microservices • Randy Shoup • GO... • What I Learned About Going Fast at eBay & ... • Small Steps Are the Fastest Way Forward: L... • Better Value Sooner Safer Happier • Simon ... • Solving the Hard Problems • Dave Farley • ... • Insights on Leadership & Innovation • Gene... • Small PRs, Big Impact: The Art of Code Rev... • Platform Strategy • Gregor Hohpe & James L... • Platform as a Product • William Rizzo • GO... • Attitude Determines Altitude: Engineering ... • Doubling Engineering Productivity at eBay ... • Applying the Saga Pattern • Caitie McCaffr... • Why Is My App SLOw? Defining Reliability i... • Release It! • Michael Nygard & Trisha Gee ... • Modern Continuous Delivery • Ken Mugrage •... • What is DevOps? Interview with John Allspa... DESCRIPTION Charles Humble sits down with veteran tech leader Randy Shoup, now SVP of Engineering at Thrive Market. Randy discusses Thrive Market’s evolution from a 10-year-old monolith to a microservices architecture, emphasizing domain-driven design and agile scaling. Drawing on his experiences at eBay and other tech giants, he explains when to adopt microservices and the importance of continuous delivery and platform engineering for boosting productivity. TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 01:00 Thrive Market & Randy's career journey 04:32 Evolving architecture: From monolith to microservices 10:53 Microservices: When (and why) to break apart your monolith 15:08 The relationship between organizational scaling & microservices 19:17 How eBay doubled engineering productivity 29:01 Balancing platform engineering effort 38:11 Building eBay today: Modern architecture & cloud tools 45:21 Evolution of architectural principles over 20 years 52:47 Outro RECOMMENDED BOOKS Sam Newman • Monolith to Microservices • https://amzn.to/2Nml96E Sam Newman • Building Resilient Distributed Systems • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/... Dave Farley & Jez Humble • Continuous Delivery • https://amzn.to/3ocIHwd Forsgren, Humble & Kim • Accelerate • https://amzn.to/367RI5o Gene Kim, Jez Humble, Nicole Forsgren, Patrick Debois & John Willis • The DevOps Handbook • https://amzn.to/3C0Rj0C Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb Ford, Parsons, Kua & Sadalage • Building Evolutionary Architectures 2nd Edition • https://amzn.to/3lqr5Q8 Simon Brown • Software Architecture for Developers Vol. 2 • https://leanpub.com/visualising-softw... Michael Feathers • Working Effectively with Legacy Code • https://amzn.to/3ZFQoMU Michael Nygard • Release It! 2nd Edition • https://amzn.to/3WJeKV8 https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com / gotocon / goto- / goto_con / gotoconferences #SoftwareArchitecture #Microservices #Monolith #MonolithToMicroservices #eBayArchitecture #ContinuousDelivery #DevOps #DORAMetrics #PlatformEngineering #PlatformTeams #EngineeringProductivity #Change #RandyShoup #CharlesHumble CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: / @goto- Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConf...