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Dr. Douglas Hamp joins Water into Wine to discuss his upcoming book, The Relational Universe, which will be released in September. In this conversation, Doug explores the idea that reality is not fundamentally made of “stuff,” but of relationship. Drawing from architecture, quantum physics, cosmology, and Scripture, he introduces three structural requirements that hold any system together: alignment, intent, and repair. We talk about: Why relationship may be more fundamental than matter The observer effect and the “participatory universe” Genesis, tohu vavohu, and creation as potentiality Love, freedom, entropy, and the cost of real choice Sin, forgiveness, and commandments as structural realities Why forgiveness can be understood as “letting go of stored misalignment” This episode is designed for believers, skeptics, and curious thinkers alike — an invitation into wonder rather than argument. Pre-order Doug Hamp’s book The Relational Universe https://a.co/d/08DTFpfC If you enjoyed this conversation, consider subscribing for more long-form discussions on Scripture, theology, history, and the biblical world.