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Matt Gillam shares his journey from insurance fraud investigation to running his own consultancy, alongside an in-depth discussion on the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Act. Together with Lawrie, he explains how fraud risk, regulation, and corporate accountability now converge—and why training, culture, and realistic response testing are critical for organisations facing today’s threats. WHITELK Consulting: https://whitelkconsulting.com/ Matt Gilham's LinkedIn: / matt-gilham Cognitas Global: https://cognitasglobal.com/ AML Consulting Global: https://amlcglobal.com/ Other places to listen: https://linktr.ee/cognitasglobal Lawrie Day's LinkedIn: / lawrieday This is a Cognitas Global Ltd production. #TheCognitasGlobalPodcast #LawrieDay #CognitasGlobal #MattGilham #corporateliability #corporate #insurancefraud #CorporateFraud #EconomicCrimeAct #BoardAccountability #FraudPrevention #AIandFraud Chapters 00:00 – How Fraud Has (and Hasn’t) Changed Purchasing fraud, insider threats, and why controls still lag behind 01:05 – AI, Deepfakes & the New Fraud Landscape CEO fraud, digitisation, and rising complexity 01:48 – How Laurie and Matt First Met Early insurance fraud investigations and “cash for crash” 02:55 – Matt’s Career Journey in Counter-Fraud From insurance leadership to independent consultancy 03:40 – Launching Whitelk Consulting Building a boutique fraud and risk consultancy 05:42 – Has Fraud Really Changed Over 20 Years? What’s stayed the same — and what’s escalated dramatically 07:45 – Digitisation, State Actors & Systemic Risk Why modern organisations face broader threat exposure 08:20 – Regulation Then vs Now From the Bribery Act to today’s expanding compliance burden 09:45 – What Is the Economic Crime & Corporate Transparency Act? ECCTA explained in practical terms 11:10 – Corporate Liability & “Failure to Prevent” Who is accountable under the Act and why it matters 12:55 – What Are “Reasonable Procedures”? SFO guidance, governance, and senior manager responsibility 14:55 – Training, Culture & Fraud Readiness Why awareness alone is no longer enough 16:15 – Why Generic Training Fails The gap between policy on paper and reality 18:25 – Can Fraud Ever Be Fully Prevented? Risk management vs regulatory expectation 19:40 – Who Owns Fraud Risk in an Organisation? Boards, executives, legal and compliance roles 21:45 – Experiential Learning Explained Why learning-by-doing actually works 23:40 – Measuring Training Effectiveness & Evidence Audit trails, analytics, and defensible proof 26:20 – Using AI to Improve Training & Response Faster insight, better reporting, real engagement 28:15 – Training Executives & Boards Effectively War-gaming, pressure testing, and decision-making 31:00 – Why Experiential Learning Beats PowerPoint More value, less time, better outcomes 35:00 – Why Evidence Is Now Non-Negotiable Personal accountability, regulation, and reputation 37:05 – Final Reflections & Key Takeaways Why ECCTA matters across all sectors