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Resilience is not about pushing harder, enduring more, or “powering through.” It’s about having a plan. In this powerful and deeply practical episode of the Her Resources Podcast, host Linda Misegadis is joined by Marie-Hélène Pelletier, PhD, MBA, RPsych (she/her) — leadership psychologist, executive coach, TEDx speaker, and award-winning author of The Resilience Plan. Marie-Hélène challenges the idea that resilience is something you either have or don’t have. Instead, she reframes resilience as a strategic, buildable skill — one that protects your mental health, supports performance, and helps leaders thrive in high-demand environments, including the age of AI. Together, Linda and Marie-Hélène (MH) unpack why burnout is not a personal failure, how values and energy awareness shape sustainable leadership, and why women often confuse resilience with endurance — at a real cost to their well-being. This conversation is especially relevant for HR professionals, people leaders, and women navigating complex demands at work and at home. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why resilience is not a mindset, but a strategy How to assess your energy supply vs. demands (and why burnout is “just math”) Why guilt drains women’s resilience — and how to choose guilt over burnout How micro-habits create sustainable change when life gets busy What resilient leadership looks like at the team and organizational level How HR professionals can protect themselves while supporting everyone else Marie-Hélène’s book, The Resilience Plan, has been recognized with Gold Awards from the 2025 Axiom & Nautilus Book Awards, and praised by leaders like Dr. Robert Cialdini, Dorie Clark, and Dr. Christine A. Padesky. If you’ve ever felt exhausted, stretched thin, or stuck in survival mode — this episode offers a roadmap forward. Featured Guest Marie-Hélène Pelletier, PhD, MBA, RPsych (she/her) Keynote Speaker on Strategic Resilience & Leadership in the Age of AI Leadership Psychologist & Executive Coach Award-Winning Author of The Resilience Plan Learn more about Marie-Hélène and her book here: http://drmarie-helene.com/the-resilie... Resources & Links Her Resources Website: https://herresourcespodcast.com Episode Timestamps 00:00 – Why resilience is not about “powering through” 02:20 – Reframing resilience as a strategic plan 05:08 – What inspired The Resilience Plan 06:28 – What resilience actually means (and what research shows) 09:06 – Why resilience needs a strategy, not good intentions 12:05 – Energy supply vs. demands: the burnout equation 17:15 – Why women’s invisible labor drains resilience 19:44 – How personal values shape sustainable resilience 22:38 – Navigating generational differences in resilience and leadership 25:08 – Burnout explained: what it is (and what it isn’t) 29:59 – Using CBT tools to reframe unhelpful thinking 36:32 – Micro-habits that support resilience in real life 40:34 – What resilient leadership looks like in teams 46:12 – HR, empathy fatigue, and boundary setting 50:25 – Guilt vs. burnout: choosing the lesser cost 53:30 – Why resilience is not the same as endurance 56:08 – Three things you can do today to build resilience