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War is ugly. Moral indifference to evil is uglier. In this thoughtful and rigorous conversation, Dr. Kermit Jones and Dr. Rodgir Cohen engage one of the most enduring moral questions in political theology and ethics: When, if ever, is the use of force morally justified? Drawing from Just War Theory, classical Christian thought, contemporary military ethics, and modern geopolitical realities, this discussion explores: • The moral foundations of jus ad bellum and jus in bello • Augustine’s legacy and the evolution of Just War reasoning • Pacifism vs. moral responsibility • Proportionality, legitimate authority, and right intention • The Iraq War and modern preemptive conflict • The tension between peace-making and confronting evil Dr. Kermit Jones brings insight from his background in public service and national security discourse, while Dr. Rodgir Cohen questions with deep expertise in ethics, theology, and moral philosophy. Together, they model civil, serious engagement across complex issues—without caricature or oversimplification. This is not a partisan debate. It is a moral inquiry. If you are interested in political theology, military ethics, international relations, ethics, or the philosophy of war, this conversation will challenge you to think carefully about both restraint and responsibility in the world. Subscribe for more lectures and high-level conversations on: Ethics | Political Theory | Religion & Public Life | Just War | Moral Philosophy #JustWarTheory #MilitaryEthics #PoliticalTheology #WarAndPeace #ChristianEthics #DrRodgirCohen #KermitJones #PhilosophyOfWar