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Cameron Hanes is a bowhunter, ultramarathon runner, podcaster, and an author. How should we deal with suffering? Most people do everything they can to avoid it, but a rare few seek it out. What if pain isn't just something to survive, but something that deepens our gratitude for the moments that truly matter? Expect to learn what drives Cam to do what he does and what being “undeniable” means to him, what the biggest lesson most people learn when they first go hunting is, the hardest thing Cam has ever done physically, if hard work beats genetics and pedigree, how Cam raised his sons and and what he would do differently, how the average person can train themselves to deal better with suffering, how Cam would feel if he felt truly worthy of his achievements, and much more… - 00:00 Chris & Cam’s Last Meeting 05:05 What Drives Cam’s Relentlessness? 18:13 Cam’s Reflections on Fatherhood 35:46 Why the Internet Hates Successful Men 44:52 The Record For Running a Marathon in Crocs 47:08 Seeing the Success of Cam’s Kids 51:12 Is Love or Hate a Better Motivator? 55:44 The Trap of Meaning Without Pleasure 1:12:39 Cam’s Most Difficult Physical Tests 1:21:00 Connections Between Genetics, Talent & Hard Work 1:32:17 The Downsides of Romanticising Suffering 1:43:33 How Cam Navigates Success & Stays Humble 1:52:59 Where to Find Cam - Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D, and more from AG1 at https://ag1.info/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular Flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom - Get the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: / chriswillx Twitter: / chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/