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Catching up again with Robert Mruczek, former head referee for Twin Galaxies. Since I asked Robert a lot of the easy questions during our chat in 2019, this time I dove right in to deeper waters, asking Robert about his recollections surrounding Billy Mitchell's claimed perfect score of Pac-Man in 1999, Billy's ridiculous court cases, a recent dispute against one of Robert's scores, and of course, Walter Day, Roy Shildt, and a few others. Enjoy! Our original interview from 2019 can be seen here: • Interview with Robert Mruczek - February 2... The recent "Video Game Fraud of the Century" project examining Billy's claimed perfect score of Pac-Man from 1999 as well as the "Player of the Century" title (given to him by Walter Day and NOT by Namco) can be seen here: https://perfectpacman.com/ The write-up on the discovery of the 2006 MTV interview where Robert shows off Billy's DK submission (girder finger and all) can be seen here: http://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?... The actual MTV interview segment is no longer hosted on the MTV website, but it can be seen here: • "Smashing Apart the Donkey Kong World Reco... Billy Mitchell's September 2019 evidence packet can be seen here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BMbW... The Donkey Kong Forum thread detailing the discovery of Wiebe's missing 885k is here: http://donkeykongforum.net/index.php?... The Twin Galaxies thread detailing Wiebe's sale of a Donkey Kong DVD on eBay (prior to the filming of King of Kong) can be seen here: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...! (Note: It's possible that in our talk Robert and I were referring to two different incidents.) The time in 2003 Robert posted a message directed to Roy Shildt conveyed from Billy Mitchell: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre... Twin Galaxies dispute over the listed date of Robert's Atari 2600 Kaboom score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre... (Note: The dispute was strictly over the listed date the score was achieved.) Also see the post-verdict discussion thread: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre... Apologies for randomly choking on my own spit at 6:10, lol. 1:30 - Pac-Man 1999 8:20 - Pattern or freehand? 9:05 - How sure are you that you saw the final score? 9:25 - Role of Gary Vincent of ACAM 14:20 - "Video Game Player of the Century" 20:10 - Melanie Griffith 23:30 - More "Player of the Century" 26:35 - Billy's evidence packet 31:45 - Billy's court cases 34:00 - Billy Mitchell hates evidence 36:10 - Question of video ownership 40:55 - When did you first realize Billy Mitchell and Walter Day were con-artists? 43:30 - Abdner Ashman and Steve Wiebe 46:25 - The Walter Day Show 49:45 - Mruczek's resignation from TG 51:00 - TG financials 53:50 - TG stock distribution 59:10 - How sketchy submissions got past Robert 1:04:40 - Barnstorming revisited 1:08:50 - Todd Rogers 1:14:50 - Early Wiebe submissions (and Wiebe's secret 885k) 1:19:40 - Wiebe's DVD, and Mark Alpiger 1:23:20 - Walter Day verifying Wiebe's score 1:26:30 - Billy's submission lacking sound 1:32:40 - TG rules around sound 1:34:50 - Brian Kuh, and Billy's witness statements 1:42:20 - Billy's "King of Kong" submission 1:45:30 - Billy sending his DK tape to Robert 1:47:55 - Oops, all MAME tapes! 1:53:10 - Life Magazine reunion photo 1:54:55 - Rudy Ferretti 2:00:05 - Roy Shildt 2:02:00 - Kaboom dispute 2:33:55 - Enduro scores 2:41:15 - Venture bounty 2:44:40 - Who among Billy's circle actually believes him?