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This was recorded in Prince Edward County Virginia in 1989. J Samuel Williams passionately describe his early life in Farmville, Virginia, Prince Edward County, growing up in the black schools educated by black teachers – motivated by black teachers and others. He tell a story from the late 1940s and when I think about it, goes on today, although things have certainly improved in very important ways. I want to thank Pastor Williams for his honesty and the contribution he made to my television documentary Making Sense Of The Sixties. During the Jim Crow era particularly in the 1930s and through World War II, the social and legal norms of segregation and racial discrimination were deeply entrenched, especially in the Southern states. This era was marked by strict racial segregation laws and customs, known as Jim Crow laws, which dictated a wide range of social interactions, including the behavior expected in public places such as restaurants. In this context, the interaction between African American citizens and white service staff was governed by these rigid racial norms. African Americans were expected to adhere to a submissive and deferential demeanor in the presence of white individuals. Any deviation from this expected behavior could indeed be potentially threatening for Black individuals. Responding in a manner that was perceived as talking back, being disrespectful, or challenging to a white person could result in severe repercussions, including the risk of physical violence. African Americans had to navigate these interactions carefully to avoid provoking a hostile response. Such interactions could lead to broader social repercussions, including being banned from the establishment or facing community backlash. In the Jim Crow South, maintaining the status quo of racial hierarchy was considered paramount, and any perceived challenge to this order was not taken lightly. In some cases, talking back or being perceived as insubordinate could even lead to legal consequences, including arrest and imprisonment, under the pretext of violating social norms or specific Jim Crow laws. This environment created a pervasive atmosphere of fear and intimidation for African Americans. The knowledge that even minor confrontations or misunderstandings could escalate to dangerous levels often compelled Black individuals to exercise extreme caution in their interactions with white individuals, particularly those in positions of authority or service roles. During the Jim Crow era, interactions between Black citizens were fraught with potential danger. African Americans had to navigate these interactions with extreme caution to avoid any situation that might be construed as confrontational or disrespectful. If you found this interview of interest I asked you to support my efforts to continue to present more videos like this one by either clicking the thanks button below the video screen or by contributing at PayPal at the username www.paypal.com/me/davidhoffmanfilms. Thank you