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Join this channel to get access to perks: / @beinghumanpodcast What actually happens when the sense of “self” disappears — and does it make you wiser? In this episode of Being Human, I’m joined by Ken Wilber, one of the most influential philosophers of human development and the founder of Integral Theory, something which played a big role in my own intellectual development. Ken shares his early awakening experience, in which he experienced a complete dissolution of the separate self, and explains why spiritual awakening alone does not equal psychological maturity or ethical wisdom. We explore the crucial distinction between waking up and growing up. And why this explains how many spiritual gurus and their communities can become so toxic. Drawing on decades of scholarship, meditation, and systems thinking, Ken offers a comprehensive framework for understanding consciousness and development. This helps us to appreciate the multiple vectors and methods of human expansion. We explore: What happens when the self dissolves Waking up vs growing up Stages of human development Why maturity still matters Links: Ken’s Website - https://kenwilber.com/ ⭐⭐⭐ Audio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Podbean: https://podcastbeinghuman.podbean.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XIGR4Z... iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Chapters: 0:00 Intro & Ken Wilber's Background 3:00 The Concept of Wholeness 7:00 Stages of Development & Multiple Intelligences 15:00 Mystical Experiences & Cosmic Consciousness 21:00 Types of Wholeness: Waking Up, Growing Up 32:00 Opening Up, Cleaning Up, and Showing Up 41:00 Shadow Work and Therapy in Wholeness 52:00 Growing Up: Models, Stages, and Projections 1:04:00 Quadrants and the Holarchic Nature of Reality 1:19:00 Integral Theory: Stages, Populations, and Social Dynamics 1:26:00 Society, Populations, and Stage Tensions 1:40:00 Population Trends, Birth Rates, and Social Evolution 1:53:00 Waking Up: Absolute vs. Relative Truth 2:06:00 Interrelation of Waking Up and Growing Up 2:24:00 Deliberately Developmental Organizations 2:33:00 Practical Applications of the Developmental Model 2:36:00 Final Thoughts and Resources