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In this episode of The Big Book Project, Lori Feathers sits down with art historian, theorist, and novelist James Elkins to discuss his new book A Short Introduction to Anneliese published by Unnamed Press—the second novel in his five-volume literary experiment, Five Strange Languages. James shares the 20-year journey behind this sprawling, genre-defying project, its dizzying structure, overlapping timelines, and why his fictional characters come with charts, graphs, footnotes, and even musical scores. Lori and James dive deep into big questions: What makes a long novel worthwhile? What does it mean to forget your younger self? Can emotion survive in a highly structured novel? Is complexity the goal—or the undoing—of the epic form? From Sebald to Stockhausen, Darwin to Ducks, Newburyport, this is a conversation for readers who love books that break form, test memory, and defy easy classification. If you’ve ever wept in front of a painting, lost patience with Proust, or believe you could be charmed by a neurotic biologist surrounded by 120 unread notebooks, this one’s for you. Connect with James: jameselkins.com A hub for his published books, essays, art criticism, upcoming projects, and course materials. Chapters 00:00 – Welcome + Introducing James Elkins 01:00 – What is A Short Introduction to Anneliese? 02:00 – Structuring a 5-Volume Novel Overlapping in Time 05:00 – A Character Who Writes Thousands of Pages Alone 08:00 – Musical Memory and the Role of Stockhausen 12:00 – Letting Visuals Speak in Fiction 14:00 – The Art of Illegible Notebooks and Fictional Archives 18:00 – Creating the Character of Anneliese 21:00 – Long Novels, Insanity, and Summer Reading Lists 24:00 – Philip K. Dick, Earthworms, and Other Mad Texts 26:30 – Does Any Big Book Really Stay in Control? 28:30 – Ducks, Digressions, and Structural Drift 30:00 – Does Constraint Kill Emotion in Fiction? 33:00 – Organizing Chaos: Making Anneliese Sympathetic 35:00 – Sculpting Disorder: Anneliese's Aesthetic Philosophy 37:00 – The Next Volumes in the Five Strange Languages Project 40:00 – Crying in Front of Paintings: James on Emotional Art 43:00 – Social Isolation, Survival, and Solipsism 44:30 – Obituaries and the Final Volume of the Series 45:30 – Reading Order and Easter Eggs Across the Series 46:30 – The Emotional Life of Difficult Characters 48:00 – A Call for More Conversations on Long Novels 51:00 – Digressions, Detail, and the Limits of Beauty 53:00 – On John Fosse, Acrostic Writing, and Descriptive Gaps 54:00 – Wrapping Up + Future Conversations Ahead