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This conversation with Dr. Chelsey Green is about legacy, but not in the polished, career-summary sense of the word. It’s about what we build day to day, what we protect, who we make space for, and what happens when responsibility gets heavy. Chelsey is a classically trained string player, educator, community builder, and Chair of the Recording Academy. What stayed with me most in this conversation was how openly she talks about the emotional cost of perfectionism, the tension between individuality and belonging, and the way community has repeatedly been the thing that brought her back to herself. We talk about growing up in Houston in a deeply musical family, the freedom she found in church music, the restrictions of formal classical training, and the way education shaped her desire to become the kind of teacher she never always had. We also get into identity, representation, what it means to walk into rooms as “the inclusion,” and how she thinks about serving 26,000 members through her work with the Academy. But underneath all of it is a simpler truth: you do not have to fight alone. What comes up in the conversation In this episode, we talk about: The tension between formal classical training and personal expression What community, sisterhood, and chosen support systems make possible The emotional cost of perfectionism and always having something to prove Depression after achievement, and the community that helped her through it Representation, responsibility, and leading as the first Black woman to chair the Recording Academy Why legacy is less about status and more about what you make possible for other people About Dr. Chelsey Green Dr. Chelsey Green is a Billboard-charting recording artist, educator, and Chair of the Recording Academy’s Board of Trustees, the first Black woman and youngest person ever to hold the role. A Houston native, she is also an Associate Professor at Berklee College of Music and a leading advocate for music education, access, and equity. As bandleader of Chelsey Green and The Green Project, she blends classical training with jazz, R&B, soul, and funk, and has performed with artists including Stevie Wonder, Lizzo, Ledisi, Maxwell, and Kirk Franklin. Website: www.chelseygreen.com Instagram: @drchelseygreen About the podcast 12 Steps to Success is a podcast about what happens when the path you were on stops making sense. Hosted by Eric Mackay, the show centres on honest conversations with people navigating change, pressure, identity shifts, recovery, and redefinition. These are not success stories or instruction manuals, but real conversations about how people live inside uncertainty and keep moving without false certainty. Website: https://twelvestepstosuccess.com Instagram: / twelvestepstosuccess