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In our first episode of The Better Product Solutions Podcast, we speak with Len Allison from Engineered Material Systems. Len gives a detailed perspective on the current space of flexible printed electronics, discussing a range of topics including what materials are used, durability characteristics, and ASTM standards. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bringing a product to market is challenging. Having confidence in your contract manufacturing partner is critical. Tapecon works with product teams to improve your market competitiveness by manufacturing functional graphics, materials, and complete products to improve look, feel, and usability. Tapecon is a trusted partner of OEM contract manufacturing. We work with product teams to manufacture prototypes, components, assemblies and provide full production services involving custom materials converting and specialized application printing. Our extensive application engineering experience and collaborative partnerships enable us to assist in materials selection and process design for cost-effective functionality, performance, and reliability for medical, electronics, and industrial industries. Website - https://tapecon.com/ Facebook - / tapecon Instagram - / tapeconinc LinkedIn - / tapecon-inc- Twitter - / tapecon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Transcript: Steve Davis [00:00:00] Flexible electronics is a pretty exciting space to be in right now, with a lot of brand owners looking to incorporate flexible print electronics into their designs. And there's a ton of great materials coming out right now that's going to really improve durability of taking really traditional printed thick film circuitry and really starting to infringe upon traditional flex circuits. So I'm really excited to have Len Allison, from Engineered Material Systems here. We're gonna be talking about a whole bunch of changing things on the material side, ASTM standards, and just overall durability characteristics that I guess just make all this stuff a reality. So it's a wide ranging conversation across all of those topics. And this is Episode 1, guest number one, and I'm really excited to have Len and have you all listen to what Len has to say. So my name's Steve Davis, I'm the president of Tapecon and this is the Better Products Podcast. Thanks for joining us. Steve Davis [00:00:56] Len, welcome to the show. Episode 1, guest number one. Happy to have you here. Len from Engineered Materials System. So, Len, welcome to the Better Products Podcast brought to you by Tapecon, so thanks very much for being here. Len Allison [00:01:10] My pleasure. Steve Davis [00:01:11] On your background. So tell us a little bit about yourself, and I guess your company and just wherever you want to start. Len Allison [00:01:19] Be happy to, be happy to. Well, I've always said a technical bent. I'd always get in trouble for taking watches apart at home, but I have a mechanical engineering degree from Michigan State. Been lucky enough to work in the conductive materials field pretty much all my career, which is 30 plus years of electronic materials for print electronics and other things. And 10 of those years were spent in Asia, which was a wonderful experience. I get to live in Japan and Singapore. Looking at what they do for print electronics as well. So I bring that experience back here as well. Steve Davis [00:01:57] Well, you've always struck me as technical, and I said that just when we were just having lunch. I mean, I feel like there's business development salespeople and then there's technical salespeople. And you've always struck me as being on the technical side of things, which I've always appreciated. So we've been, you know, we talked prior to this about, you know, what we want to talk about, and you introduced a new concept to me for my consideration, which I thought was great, durable printed electronics. And I've, I've always identified, obviously I'm well aware of printed electronics, but you helped me, I guess, maybe step away from it and look down a little bit about in terms of flexible electronics as just an orbiting ethos, and then all the little subsegments underneath flexible electronics and printed thick film circuitry in specificity which were going to talk about. But can you just give me, I guess, what is durable printed electronics and why is it important? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://tapecon.com/