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In this episode, Betsy sits down with attorney and former Columbus City Council candidate Jesse Vogel for a conversation that picks up in the aftermath of an election and in the middle of a pivotal moment for our city. Jesse reflects on the close of his campaign, what the experience demanded of him, and how it reshaped the relationships and energy around local politics. While most candidates get a pause after Election Day, Jesse stepped straight into high-stakes work at CRIS, as Columbus began grappling with increased ICE activity and the fear and uncertainty that followed. They talk about what those early days felt like on the ground, how families are navigating detention, and how local leaders are coordinating to respond with urgency and care. The conversation closes with a forward-looking perspective on what comes next for Columbus, and how people across the city can stay engaged in shaping a community that looks out for one another.