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Mike Kapler joins me today as we talk about the Sermon on the Mount. Were Jesus' words in Matthew 5–7 directed to believers today as behavior goals — or were they intended for Old Covenant Jews still living under the law? Before the cross, before the church existed, before the New Covenant was established — who was Jesus addressing, and why? In this conversation, we explore the covenant setting of the Sermon on the Mount and ask whether we’ve been reading church doctrine into a message that was never intended for the church. This isn’t about dismissing Jesus’ words. It’s about understanding them in context. If context helps to determine meaning, this conversation matters. Recommended book, Clash of the Covenants: https://a.co/d/0gXLYyuW You'll find Mike Kapler and Joel Brueseke at the Growing in Grace podcast at https://www.growingingrace.org/ or on any podcast app. ---------------- Other Places You’ll Find Me: The UnSunday Show Podcast: https://www.unsunday.com The Grace Cafe Podcast: https://www.gracecafepodcast.com