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Where did all the colour go? And how might Western culture have feared it, or deemed it superficial, in art and philosophy? We celebrate the 25th anniversary of seminal book ‘Chromophobia’ with its author David Batchelor, who reflects on these ideas a quarter of a century on. David speaks to National Gallery host Beks Leary about ideas of colour from philosopher Plato and artist Paul Cezanne, to the film ‘The Wizard of Oz’, photojournalist Don McCullin and pop artist Andy Warhol. They also ask the pressing question: ‘is beige a passive aggressive colour?’ David Batchelor is an artist and writer based in London, who, for thirty years, has been concerned with our experience of colour within the modern urban environment, and with historical conceptions of colour within Western culture. His work comprises sculpture, installation, drawing, painting, photography and animation. _______ Subscribe to our YouTube channel and never miss an episode of 'Stories in Colour': http://bit.ly/1HrNTFd Watch your next episode of 'Stories in Colour': • Stories in Colour | National Gallery Podcast You can email us with any questions via [email protected] Find out more about the podcast on our website: www.nationalgallery.org.uk/podcast _______ To take our short survey about the podcast please visit: https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/po... _______ 🎨 Find out more about the artworks mentioned in this episode: Paul Cezanne, ‘Hillside in Provence’, about 1890-2. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/pa... Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres, ‘Madame Moitessier’, 1856. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/pa... Pierre-Auguste Renoir, ‘The Skiff (La Yole)’, 1875. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/pa... Claude Monet, ‘The Gare St-Lazare', 1877. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/pa... Sir Don McCullin CBE, ‘Shell-shocked US Marine, The Battle of Hue’, 1968, printed 2013. ARTIST ROOMS Tate and National Galleries of Scotland https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/... https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art... English or French (?), ‘The Wilton Diptych’, about 1395-9. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/pa... Further reading: David Batchelor, Chromophobia [Book], 2000 Aristotle, Poetics, composed around 4th century BCE Johann Joachim Winckelmann, History of Ancient Art (Geschichte der Kunst des Alterthums) [Book], 1764 Herman Melville, Moby Dick: or, The Whale [Book], 1851 Vidor, King, et al., The Wizard of Oz [Film], 1939 Salman Rushdie, The Wizard of Oz (BFI Film Classics) [Book], 1992 Charles Blanc, Grammaire des arts du dessin: architecture, sculpture, peinture [Book], 1867 Roland Barthes, ‘Camera Lucida: Reflections on Photography’ [Book], 1980 Find out more about photojournalist Don McCullin: https://donmccullin.com/ Find out more about Andy Warhol’s prints here: https://warholfoundation.org/warhol/c... https://www.moma.org/collection/works... Additional note: Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres’s ‘Madame Moitessier’ features a Japanese Imari vase. _______ Episode Credits: Guest: David Batchelor Host and executive producer: Beks Leary Producer: Harry Rosehill Researcher: Hannah Rogers Technicians: Ian Warren and Tom Gulliver Editor: Jeanne Kenyon Theme music: Theo Elwell _______ #NationalGallery #ArtHistory #StoriesInColour #Podcast 🎞 Subscribe to our YouTube channel and never miss a video: http://bit.ly/1HrNTFd Follow us on social media! ⭐️ Instagram: / nationalgallery ⭐️ TikTok: / nationalgallerylondon ⭐️ Facebook: / thenationalgallery ⭐️ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@nationalgallery ⭐️ X, formerly Twitter: / nationalgallery Help keep the museum accessible for everyone by supporting us here: https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/su... The world's greatest paintings to your inbox. Sign up to receive the latest news from the Gallery: https://bit.ly/3m0FY98 The National Gallery houses the national collection of paintings in the Western European tradition from the 13th to the 19th centuries. The museum is free of charge and open 361 days per year, daily between 10am - 6pm and on Fridays between 10am - 9pm. Trafalgar Square, London, WC2N 5DN https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk