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Are you a heart-centered entrepreneur or ministry leader who cringes at the word "Sales"? In this episode, Reverend Jocelyn sits down with the "Queen of Reframe," Coach Carol Boston, to reveal why sales is actually a form of spiritual service and how to use the scientifically validated BANK system to close more deals. If you’ve ever felt like you’re speaking a different language than your clients, you’re probably right. Carol Boston shares her journey from a 26-year corporate sales veteran to becoming a world-class business coach after a "holy setup" changed her life. We dive deep into the psychology of buying, overcoming childhood money triggers, and why "Why" questions are killing your leadership. In this video, we cover: How to separate your "Who" from your "Do" to avoid burnout. The 3 core reframes to make selling feel natural and honorable. An introduction to B.A.N.K (Blueprint, Action, Nurture, Knowledge) personality coding. The #1 empowering question every leader needs on their sticky note. How to stop self-sabotaging your wealth as a Christian leader. If you’re building a ministry, nonprofit, or purpose-driven business, this episode will help you: ✔ Stop fearing sales ✔ Reframe money through a Kingdom lens ✔ Communicate with clarity and confidence ✔ Grow without guilt ✨ Ready to accelerate your ministry? Book your free Ministry & Business Accelerator call with Reverend Jocelyn here: 👉 https://revjocelyn.com/breakthrough-s... 🚀 Connect with Coach Carol Boston: 👉 / carol.boston.37 🎟️ Register for the Ministry Launch Conference: 👉 https://ministrylaunchconference.com/ ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Introduction: Meet Reverend Jocelyn & Coach Carol Boston 01:48 - From Corporate Sales to Reluctant Entrepreneur: The Backstory 04:05 - The Email That Changed Everything: Getting Fired on Vacation 05:05 - Separating Your "Who" from Your "Do" (Identity in Business) 07:38 - Why You Should NEVER Ask "Why" Questions 09:25 - Overcoming the Fear of Sales in Ministry 10:48 - Breaking Childhood Money Triggers & Christian Wealth Sabotage 12:12 - 3 Ways to Reframe Sales as Service 13:58 - The Art of Enrollment vs. Being "Salesy" 18:53 - Introduction to B.A.N.K Personality Coding 22:10 - How to Understand Buying Values in 90 Seconds 27:45 - Using Personality Codes to Heal Family Relationships 31:00 - Closing Advice: Trust the Process & Take the Next Step FOLLOW COACH CAROL BOSTON: Facebook ➡️ / carol.boston.37 Instagram ➡️ / thecarolboston LinkedIn ➡️ / thecarolboston Lead Magnet ➡️ https://calendly.com/carolboston/shor... If you need Christian trauma-healing support, visit: 📌 https://www.faithonthejourney.org/ If you’re a sister who feels called to ministry, download your free starter kit: 📌 https://sisterstartyourministry.com/ You can schedule a Breakthrough Call with me: 📌 https://revjocelyn.com/breakthrough-s... Join The Ministry Launch Conference 2026: 📌 https://ministrylaunchconference.com/ ✨ Follow Rev. Jocelyn: ➡️ / revjocelyn ➡️ / revjocelyn ➡️ / revjocelynjjones ➡️ / revjocelyn ➡️ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... ➡️ https://open.spotify.com/show/2b2cHzZ... #SalesIsService #KingdomEntrepreneur #MinistryGrowth #CarolBoston #BusinessCoaching #BANKcode #WomenInMinistry #MindsetReframe #EntrepreneurLife #RevJocelyn #RevJocelynTalks #Funding #Money #Business #Women #Speakers #Podcast #Motivational #Conversation #Ministry #WomenInTheMinistry #HowToStartYourMinistry #Psychology #Sales