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In this episode, Shawn and Chris break down the Fractional CMO model — what it is, who it’s for, and why more growing companies are turning to it instead of hiring a full-time marketing executive. We cover: • How a Fractional CMO differs from an agency • When a business actually needs one • Cost vs. value comparison • Strategy vs. execution roles • How to scale marketing without overpaying If you're a business owner doing $500K–$10M+ and feeling stuck in your marketing, this conversation will help you understand whether a Fractional CMO could be the missing piece. Subscribe for more real conversations on business growth, marketing strategy, and scalable systems. Book a Discovery Call with BrandLyft 👉🏻 https://brandlyft.io/ [00:00:00] Introduction and welcoming guest Chris Johnson [00:01:21] Defining the role of a Fractional CMO [00:02:01] Process for assessing new client goals [00:02:38] Building a team of trusted partners [00:04:31] Challenges of working with business owners [00:05:07] Delivering hard truths to entrepreneurs [00:06:27] Managing scope and ensuring business change [00:08:06] Communication strategies and building trust [00:10:27] Choosing the right communication channels [00:11:43] Evolution of marketing and AI integration [00:12:33] Using AI to increase business efficiency [00:13:58] Implementing AI voice agents and automations [00:16:10] Solving the problem of missed calls [00:18:32] Post-call automations and lead nurturing [00:20:26] Future of AI in search and advertising [00:21:44] SEO for large language models (LLMs) [00:24:52] Fixing the "leaky bucket" in marketing [00:26:30] Website optimization and call to actions [00:28:44] Lead scheduling and operational efficiency [00:31:40] Professional systems versus piecemeal tools [00:34:50] Scaling for service-based businesses [00:37:34] Advice for new business owners [00:40:31] Closing remarks and future deep dives