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Katie Lam became an MP in 2024, leaving a career in finance. She's also an accomplished scriptwriter, having co-written five musicals. She's one of the most exciting new intake MPs, and she's ruffling feathers in Westminster and beyond. She joins political editor Tim Shipman to discuss everything from her vision for the country to the ECHR, and shares her political ambitions. // CHAPTERS 00:00 – Immigration, welfare and system abuse 01:59 – Conservative proposals to reform benefits 04:08 – How migration drives economic and social issues 06:54 – Gaming the system and the case against the ECHR 10:23 – Should Britain leave the ECHR? 13:11 – Katie Lam's heritage and views on assimilation 15:46 – Rebuilding trust after electoral defeat 18:08 – The 2024 Tory intake and future of the party 21:08 – Life beyond politics 22:42 – Why she still believes in Britain’s future // SUBSCRIBE TO THE SPECTATOR Get 12 issues for £12, plus a free £20 John Lewis/Waitrose voucher https://www.spectator.co.uk/tvoffer // FREE PODCASTS FROM THE SPECTATOR Hear more from The Spectator's journalists on their podcasts, covering everything from the politics of the UK, US and China, to religion, literature, lifestyle and more. https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcasts/ // FOLLOW US / spectator / officialspectator / the-spectator / spectator1828 / thespectatormagazine