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“Rather than being angry at bad, incompetent conservative politicians – Jeremy Hunt, George Osborne – we should be angry with ourselves for letting it be possible that they have these positions of power and make the mistakes that they’ve made. And we’ve had the most divided progressive politics in Europe – forever splitting, splitting, splitting – and yet we blame it on the right. It’s possible to change things – but you’ve got to be angry and you’ve got to be bothered. And you’ve got to realise it’s possible.” Audio recording of a conversation between Liam McArthur MSP and Professor Danny Dorling, Professor of Human Geography at the University of Oxford and the UK's best-known social geographer, as part of the Festival of Politics 2025 at the Scottish Parliament on 21 August 2025. Note: sound levels in this audio recording are variable. In his latest book, The Next Crisis: What We Think About the Future (Verso Books), Professor Dorling uses the most up-to-date research to redraw our assumptions about where our greatest threats come from and solutions that lie in politics and collective social organisation to tackle our uncertain future. His books Peak Injustice, Seven Children, Shattered Nation and All That Is Solid are crucial reading for anyone interested in the impact politics has had on the UK's housing, education, poverty and inequality levels, together with robust solutions on how to address these challenges of our age. Festival of Politics 2025 https://www.festivalofpolitics.scot/ The Next Crisis: What We Think About the Future https://www.dannydorling.org/books/th...