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Does the world feel like it’s on the brink? Olaf Groth believes we’ve faced similar challenges before—and overcome them. In this episode, he explores why thoughtful policymaking, not hubris-driven innovation, holds the key to navigating our dysfunctional and fragile global systems. From politics and economics to technology, this conversation spans the US, China, Europe, Southeast Asia, and India, offering insights into a world in flux. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #OlafGroth ----------------------- About Luminary: Olaf Groth is the founding CEO of advisory think tank Cambrian Futures. He serves as a professional faculty at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business, adjunct professor of Practice at Hult IBS, and honorary adjunct professor at Universiti Teknologi Malaysia. Groth is the lead co-author of “The Great Remobilization: Strategies & Designs for a Smarter Global Future” (2023) and “Solomon’s Code: Humanity in a World of Thinking Machines” (2018). About the Host: Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022—2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. ----------------------- Other episodes you might also like: • Dr. Yasantha: AI vs AGI & Homo Sapien... • Michael Levitt: Studied Physics, Mast... • America vs Everybody: Will The US Win... ----------------------- Explore and discuss this episode further: https://endgame.id/ ----------------------- Be our collaborator and partner: https://sgpp.me/contactus ----------------------- CHAPTERS 00:00 - Intro 01:28 - Personal background 05:58 - ‘The Great Remobilization’ Book 09:32 - What makes Olaf so optimistic to tackle his ‘6Cs’ 10:59 - Big questions in solving climate change 18:36 - “It’s a shared catastrophe waiting to happen” 22:14 - Climate change and AI 24:31 - FLP-IT 28:33 - The bifurcation of AI development 32:14 - Why is Europe seemingly not catching up on AI 39:10 - Paradox of Internet 47:08 - Energy thirst of AI 49:36 - The Three Shifts 53:43 - Digital decoupling between the US and China 55:46 - India 58:26 - Open-source and close-source? 1:01:45 - Political influence on academics in the US 1:06:28 - Data irony 1:15:35 - Historical amnesia and cognitive immunity 1:18:07 - Industrial Revolution 4.0 x Society 5.0 1:24:58 - How to catch up in an AI world?