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MMM is sponsored by 321 - a new online introduction to Christianity, presented by former MMM guest Glen Scrivener. Check it out for free at 321course.com/MMM. Just enter your email, choose a password and you’re in — there’s no spam and no fees. 📰 Subscribe to Maiden Mother Matriarch here to listen to full extended episodes: louiseperry.substack.com My guest today is the writer and psychotherapist Phyllis Chesler. Her bestselling book, 'Women and Madness', published in 1972, was one of the most influential books of the second wave. She has spent a lifetime writing about and campaigning on feminist issues including honour killings, the surrogacy industry, child custody, and the treatment of women in mental health institutions. We spoke and Phyllis' recollections of the women's movement, including her relationships with Gloria Steinem, Andrea Dworkin, Kate Millett, and Shulamith Firestone. We also spoke about where feminism has gone wrong, via 'trashing' and the misplaced priorities of the contemporary movement. The MMM podcast can also be found on Apple, Spotify, and all other streaming platforms: https://linktr.ee/maidenmothermatriarch Follow Maiden Mother Matriarch on social media: Twitter: @maiden_podcast Instagram: @maiden_mother_matriarch TikTok: @maiden_podcast #LouisePerry #Feminism #MaidenMotherMatriarch