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Episode 53 of the Ask Dr. Change Podcast is a Bonus Episode from our colleagues over at the “Change Signal” Podcast. “Is Your Organization Change Allergic?” explores why many organizations don’t simply resist change but have a deeper, systemic “allergy” to it. In her conversation with host Michael Bungay Stanier, Anne Gotte, SVP of Global Talent & Organization Effectiveness at Mondelēz International, challenges the idea that traditional change management is sufficient in today’s environment. She argues that modern organizations require an ongoing capacity for change, not episodic interventions. Together, Anne and Michael examine the limits of top-down “decree change,” the importance of building emotional tolerance for uncertainty, and why embracing messy, imperfect leadership is often the most effective path forward. The dialogue offers grounded insight and practical guidance for anyone leading or supporting complex transformation efforts. ABOUT MICHAEL BUNGAY STANIER Michael Bungay Stanier is the author of The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century, and a long-time student of organizational transformation. As host of the Change Signal podcast, he interviews senior leaders, thinkers, and practitioners to uncover what truly works in the real world of change. His work helps leaders cut through noise, reduce overwhelm, and increase the success rate of their change initiatives. Learn more about Michael at https://www.mbs.works/ and about the Change Signal Podcast at https://thechangesignal.com. ABOUT ANNE GOTTE Anne Gotte is the Senior Vice President of Global Talent & Organization Effectiveness at Mondelēz International. With more than 20 years of transformation experience across companies such as Bumble, Ecolab, and General Mills, Anne specializes in building change-ready organizations and strengthening leadership capability. Her approach centers on honest dialogue, practical systems insight, and developing the organizational capacity needed to navigate continuous change. Connect with Anne on LinkedIn: / annegotte For more about Ask Dr. Change, visit us here: https://askdrchange.com https://beingfirst.com/askdrchange