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In this episode of Business & Beyond, Sanjay Chari speaks with John Gualtieri, Managing Director of Officeworks Australia, about leadership, authenticity, and navigating change at scale. John shares reflections from a long career in retail, from his early days on the shop floor to leading major transformations. He shares lessons shaped over time — often learned by getting things wrong first — and how those experiences influenced the way he leads today. The conversation explores why simplifying choices builds trust the importance of genuinely listening to frontline teams and acting on what you hear how leaders can stay effective even when they don’t have all the answers A thoughtful discussion on leadership shaped by experience, and what really matters over the long run. BCG maintains a professional relationship with the company represented by this episode’s guest. 00:00 Why diversity of thought really matters 00:26 Introducing John Gualtieri 01:00 Growing up, family, and early influences 04:31 First steps into retail 06:46 Early leadership roles and career choices 11:56 Joining Kmart and the journey of transformation 14:23 Simplifying complexity to rebuild customer trust 19:13 Big decisions and the Kmart turnaround 20:05 Leadership lessons: the power of listening 26:43 Throwing out the script during COVID 28:31 Leading Officeworks today 30:08 The pace of change in modern retail 32:58 Future opportunities: Tech, B2B 37:36 Purpose beyond profit 39:03 Staying grounded as a leader