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The Age of Humanistic AI

In this episode of Not Just AI, hosted by Pranay Agrawal, Co-Founder and CEO of Fractal, we sit down with two of the most influential pioneers in modern artificial intelligence. Tom Gruber, the co-founder and inventor of Siri, joins Pranay to reflect on how conversational AI began, what it took to build Siri before deep learning and large language models, and why “humanistic AI” should augment human intelligence rather than replace it. Ben Vigoda, a pioneer of probabilistic programming and probabilistic computing hardware, shares his path from early neural-network research to building foundational AI chips and creating probabilistic programming as a more interpretable, data-efficient alternative to brute-force scaling. Together, Pranay Agrawal, Tom Gruber, and Ben Vigoda explore the evolution of AI from the early days of symbolic reasoning to today’s LLMs, and what comes next for enterprise AI, explainable AI, and human-centered AI systems. You’ll hear why inductive bias and architecture matter as much as data, how probabilistic approaches compare with large language models like ChatGPT, and how AI can be designed for transparency, universal access, and real user agency. The conversation also tackles AI’s energy footprint, applications in renewable energy markets, and the fast-changing relationship humans are forming with conversational agents, especially in high-stakes areas like mental health. If you’re building, deploying, or leading AI strategy in business, this discussion offers rare historical context and practical guidance from the builders who shaped the field. Watch to the end for concrete habits and norms the guests recommend to keep human-AI relationships healthy as these systems become more agentic and persuasive. #NotJustAI #PranayAgrawal #FractalAI #TomGruber #Siri #BenVigoda #HumanisticAI #ConversationalAI #EnterpriseAI #ArtificialIntelligence #AILeadership #AIStrategy #ProbabilisticProgramming #ExplainableAI #InductiveBias #LargeLanguageModels #LLM #ChatGPT #AIHardware #AIAgents #AIandSociety #AIethics #MentalHealthAI #FutureOfAI #TechPodcast #AIInnovation