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Please note this podcast was recorded in November 2025. Hear or view the full series here: http://eswm.org.uk/whatawaste/ What this episode is about Most businesses assume that once data is deleted, it’s gone. It isn’t. In this first episode of What a Waste, Darren Draper is joined by Gareth Ward, CEO of Environmental Solutions, to explain why deleting, formatting or wiping a device does not mean your data has been destroyed. From laptops sold online with thousands of records still accessible, to hidden risks inside office equipment, this episode reveals how easily sensitive data can be exposed — and what businesses need to do to protect themselves. The core idea Deleting isn’t destruction. Your data may no longer be visible, but that doesn’t mean it’s gone. Without proper processes and physical destruction, your business could still be exposed to: Data breaches GDPR penalties Reputational damage Loss of clients and trust In this episode Why deleting or formatting a device doesn’t remove the data How hackers access “deleted” information Why small businesses are just as at risk as large organisations The financial and reputational impact of a data breach Why physical destruction is the only guaranteed solution How to create simple, auditable processes to protect your business Why this matters A data breach doesn’t just cost money. It can stop a growing business in its tracks. As Gareth explains, it can be the fastest way to lose trust, lose clients and potentially put your business at risk. Take the next step If you’re unsure whether your current processes actually protect your data, Environmental Solutions offers: Free site visits Awareness training and webinars Secure data destruction services Full audit trails and certification Find out more here: http://eswm.org.uk/whatawaste/ Final thought If your old equipment still contains recoverable data, it’s not waste. It’s a risk.