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Matt Guerrero and Tiffany Galloway are leaders at Blue Engine, a nonprofit organization that partners with school systems to scale inclusive practices. Their work spans regions across the U.S.—from New York City to Louisiana, Massachusetts, and the Pacific Northwest—supporting districts in building coherent, system‑level approaches to inclusive instruction. Matt and Tiffany bring deep backgrounds as classroom teachers, special educators, coaches, and district‑level leaders focused on equity, learner variability, and instructional design. In this episode, Tim talks with Matt Guerrero and Tiffany Galloway about how Blue Engine has evolved from classroom‑level co‑teaching support to helping entire school systems build the structures, mindsets, and capacity needed for inclusive education. They discuss the surprising differences—and similarities—across districts around the country, the challenges of scaling inclusive practices beyond a single classroom, and the importance of unified vision, shared language, and proactive design. Matt and Tiffany share stories from partnerships in places like New York, Northern California, Massachusetts, Baltimore, and Louisiana, highlighting what it actually looks like when leaders confront silos, build trust, rethink systems, and center learner variability. They also unpack why psychological safety matters in coaching, how systems can move beyond compliance, and what motivates district leaders to pursue real change. The conversation closes with a lighter moment as the guests imagine what job they'd try for just one day. Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/blue... Chapters 01:03 Introduction 03:28 Meet the Guests 05:21 From Co-Teaching to Systems Change 09:03 Lessons from Diverse Regions 18:17 What Motivates District Leaders 24:26 Breaking Down Silos 40:42 Navigating Equity and Inclusion 46:29 Student Voice and Impact 48:49 What's Next for Blue Engine 53:12 Mystery Question