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“Especially in times like these, it’s important as an artist, not being reduced to someone who just respond in a critical way to all the madness going on in the world, because then you can never reach a point that you find interesting yourself.” Micheal Elmgreen and Ingar Dragset explains in this film how they met at a gay club in Copenhagen and started out as a couple. “Then after a year we found out that we were sharing so many things in our world views and our ideas so why not test out to do something together.” Their first exhibition randomly turned into a performance. The audience didn’t interact with the objects the way they planned – so they had to show them. “By doing these performances in art spaces we realize how many conventions there are in these spaces not only architecturally, but also in terms of rituals” They wanted to challenge these conventions by “dressing the art space up in drag”. Changing the white cube and exhibiting in new environments actually changed the way the audience interacts with the objects, explaining they explain further. Through these new environments and by storytelling, they challenge hegemonic ideas and systems of masculinity, adolescence, queerness, the AIDS crisis, etc. Even though ELMGREEN&DRAGSET works deal with shame and exclusion they’re simultaneously profoundly humoristic. “I guess we see the world a little bit like Samuel Beckett might have done. When you see a Beckett play it's very dark, seemingly quite pessimistic but also very very funny (…) we feel that Beckett is still pretty relevant in today's society”. Michael Elmgreen (Denmark, 1961) and Ingar Dragset (Norway, 1969) have worked together since 1995. For 30 years they have used storytelling, art, design and public space, to ask questions about us and the world that surrounds us - gaining immense international recognition for exactly this. Their landmark installation Prada Marfa(2005) in the Texas desert has become a global icon, and in 2009 they curated the Nordic Pavilion at the Venice Biennale with The Collectors. They created Powerless Structures, Fig. 101 for London’s Fourth Plinth in 2012 and have held major solo shows at Tate Modern, Whitechapel Gallery, and Astrup Fearnley Museet. Recent exhibitions include Musée d’Orsay, Paris (2024–25), Amorepacific Museum of Art, Seoul (2024–25), and Khao Yai Art Forest, Thailand (2025). Micheal Elmgreen and Ingar Dragset was interviewed by Astrid Agnes Hald in their studio in Neukölln, Berlin in February 2025. Camera: Olivia Newton Produced and edited by Astrid Agnes Hald Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, 2025 Louisiana Channel is supported by Den A.P. Møllerske Støttefond and Ny Carlsbergfondet. Subscribe to our channel for more videos on art: / thelouisianachannel FOLLOW US HERE: Website: http://channel.louisiana.dk Instagram: / louisianachannel Facebook: / louisianachannel