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What really breaks a growing business? In this episode of the JOP Podcast, Steve Matthews joins Gaurav Sabharwal to talk about why many businesses become founder-dependent — and how unclear roles, weak systems, and constant firefighting slowly wear founders down. Drawing from 25+ years of building and coaching businesses, Steve shares practical insights on role clarity, simple systems, meaningful goals, and when AI and automation actually help reduce founder load. The focus isn’t on theory, but on the basics that allow a business to run without constant founder involvement. If you’re a founder or leader trying to scale without burning out, this conversation is worth your time. 👉 Subscribe to Joy of Performing for more conversations on leadership and performance. #entrepreneurship #founderlife #businessleadership #startuppodcast #scalingbusiness #founderburnout #smallbusinesstips #ceoinsights #businessgrowth