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What if the secret to scaling your business isn't working harder — but stepping out of your office and into a room that transforms your thinking? In this episode of The Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Francis Rodnio to share the vision, strategy, and philosophy behind Scale UP Summit 2026 — a two-day event designed specifically for founders and CEOs who are ready to move from operator to Scale Up leader. Paul unpacks why he created Scale UP Summit three years ago, what makes it fundamentally different from every other business event, and why the biggest mistake founders make right now is staying frozen in fear instead of getting educated, connected, and equipped. This isn't an event about marketing tactics or surface-level strategies. It's a structured journey through the exact skills, mindset shifts, and systems you need at every stage of growth — from building a lead machine to scaling with acquisitions, from hiring your first COO to becoming superhuman as a CEO. Paul shares real stories from past attendees who scaled from £50,000 to £250,000 in a year, clients who've sold businesses for over £140 million, and why this year's lineup — featuring experts on AI-powered sales, M&A, team building, personal branding, and performance optimization — is built to help you transform, not just learn. This episode is essential listening for any founder or CEO who wants to understand where they are on the scale-up journey, what skills they need to master next, and how to build a grown-up business that runs without them. Key Takeaways Why Scale UP Summit was created — and what makes it different from every other business event The structured journey: how each speaker builds on the last to create a roadmap for sustainable growth Why mindset is the biggest constraint to scaling — and how to shift from operator to CEO thinking The skills you need at each stage: from lead generation to team building to acquisitions Why the event you have to battle to get to is the one that will change your life the most How AI is disrupting every business model — and why education is your only defense Real stories: how attendees have scaled from £60k to £250k and beyond in 12 months Why content, connections, and coaching make Scale-Up Summit a transformation, not just an event About Scale-Up Summit 2026Scale UP Summit is a two-day event for founders and CEOs scaling businesses from £500k to £10m+. Held on April 29–30, 2026, it brings together world-class speakers, expert coaches, and a community of like-minded entrepreneurs committed to building grown-up businesses that scale sustainably and create real enterprise value. Only 100 tickets are available — and over 40 have already been reserved for existing clients. Next Steps*Join Scale-Up Summit 2026* Secure your ticket now at https://www.scaleupsummit.co.uk Apply it now Identify one skill you need to master at your current stage of growth — and commit to learning it in the next 90 days. Scale with Paul If this episode resonated, Paul's work focuses on helping founders step out of the day-to-day and scale with structure and confidence. Book a call with Paul: https://www.paulavins.com/book-a-call Subscribe to the Scale-Up Newsletter: https://www.paulavins.com/newsletter-... About Paul Avins Paul Avins is a scale-up business coach and founder of the Grown-Up Business framework. He works with founders and CEOs to help them move from operator to scale-up leader — building businesses that grow sustainably, scale beyond the founder, and create real enterprise value. Paul's work focuses on disciplined leadership, high-performing teams, and systems that replace chaos with clarity. Level Up. Team Up. Scale Up. Fire Up.