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In February of this year, the Truth & Transparency Foundation released an audio recording made by Sean Escobar as he confronted his abuser as a child, Sterling Van Wagenen—co-founder of the Sundance Film Festival and director of many LDS Church-produced films, including the films shown in LDS temples. The story of the abuse and its impact has now made national news, spurred by the continuing coverage of The Truth and Transparency Foundation as it was revealed that even though the abuse was reported to LDS Church authorities, Sterling was not excommunicated, but went on to work as a professor at Brigham Young University and produce many LDS Church films. Since the release of the audio recording by TTF, Sterling has since pled guilty to separate charges of child sex abuse in Utah and is currently awaiting sentencing. Sean and Crystal Escobar bravely recount their experiences with child abuse within the LDS community, shedding light on the systemic cover-up of abuse cases, as discussed in their candid interview with John Dehlin. Sean recalls the traumatic night of the abuse, highlighting the psychological toll and the church's failure to provide adequate support. Crystal shares her own experience with abuse and the complexities of reconciling her love for her father with the truth about his actions. The interview delves into the church's culture of secrecy, victim shaming, and the broader implications of institutional protection. Sean's journey toward confronting the abuser and advocating for other victims is a testament to his resilience and commitment to fostering change within the community. Their powerful narrative serves as a rallying call for transparency, accountability, and the protection of vulnerable individuals within religious organizations. 00:00 Introduction 05:44 Sean telling about the events that lead to the night of the abuse, and the night itself 09:37 Telling his mom what happened 10:31 What was Van Wagenen's reputation in the community? 11:25 Truth and transparency Commission released audio. We'll release edited version of it. 12:05 Any way to express what went through a kid's mind? 12:56 Telling his dad 14:47 What did you know about his conversation with your parents? 18:58 Mind boggling that Sam Young was excommunicated for saying children need to be protected 19:25 Members not being informed about what he did 20:17 How does that leave other victims vulnerable? Sean worried about his kids 20:40 The aftermath for Sean 32:00 Crystal talking about the abuse she experienced 36:07 John calling out his concerns about religion and abuse 44:21 Van Wagenen went on with his life. Sean's decision to confront him. 57:00 Sean being depleted after the interview. 59:50 The dark side to the atonement 1:04:08 The decision to release it, four weeks of hell after releasing the recording. 1:09:16 Another victim came forward. Female family member in child age 1:12:42 What happened with Sterling? Being charged by his own family. 6 y to life 1:14:02 Goal is not to shame Van Wagenen. System neglected Sean. We have to do better 1:18:55 Truth Transparency foundation. 1:23:15 This is not the kind of attention I want, but I want to make it safer 1:23:59 I can go first. Me too movement. Silence allows the system to stay dysfunctional 1:24:38 John's plea to the Mormon church 1:31:30 Wanting to add? How go forward? 1:34:28 Heroes for willingness to talk about this 1:25:20 'There's a tsunami coming.' Mormon church will have their spotlight coming 1:35:54 Thank you for doing the right thing. This is going to help others 1:36:13 Closing words 1:37:32 Still be doing an interview with Crystal about her book!