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Our speakers today are Dr. Carmen Hust (RN) & Gordon Kubanek (PEng, TSSF). Carmen has a bachelor’s degree (U Montreal), master’s (Villanova U), & doctorate (U Ottawa). She is Chair of Nursing at Algonquin College & does mental health counselling. Gordon has a master’s in chemical engineering (McGill) & did most of his career teaching High School Physics & Chemistry. DESCRIPTION: Should Chronic Social Density Stress [CSDS] be included as a key limit to growth? Social & psychological issues affect our ability to face our challenges & may be the key factor to our success in preventing our current ecological overshoot behaviour from turning into a collapse of the ecosystems & social norms. We will explore CSDS research, the rat paradise experiments, emotions as being contagious, epigenetic trauma, & the toxicity of our individualistic culture. We will give some skills to cope with the CSDS. We believe that with these ideas and skills, you will be able to interact in a more healing & constructive manner with others. We see every interaction as an opportunity to reduce CSDS as it makes people more unreasonable & harder to talk with & believe that we can all do our bit to improve our chances of a better future.