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In this episode I talk to Jonny Drury. This conversation takes us on a journey through Jonny’s life, from his experiences as a child, to discovering psychedelics and Sufism, his introduction to Bohm Dialogue during his Fine Art degree, and being informed he met the criteria for Asperger’s and ADHD later in life, which led him to host the first Autism Dialogue in 2017. He then took up Autism and Coaching studies at postgraduate level and established Dialogica UK. Jonny shares how Bohm’s philosophy of wholeness, mirrored in other spiritual traditions, helps us understand the neurodiversity paradigm as a subset of biodiversity, recognising that everyone is different. Series two of the Lost in Language podcast, hosted by facilitator and founder of Creating Meaning, Jessica Ball, is a deep dive into Bohm Dialogue, a practice, process and philosophy that Jessica has been passionately working with for the past 10 years. Driven by his deep interest in understanding human nature, David Bohm brought people together in dialogue to explore aspects of human consciousness, at the individual, collective and cosmic level. Building on the approaches explored in series one, Bohm Dialogue is another vital practice that can help us get curious, create empathy and improve understanding; whilst also developing skills that can help us think together in creative and generative ways. Links and further resources The Autism Dialogue Approach Handbook: Transforming Communication in Neurodiversity - https://dialogica.uk/the-autism-dialo... LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnydrur... Book Launch: The Autism Dialogue Handbook on Routledge - Jonny Drury - https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/book-l... Guest bio Jonny Drury Jonny is a dialogue facilitator, trainer, consultant and as a therapeutic coach, his modalities are mainly Transpersonal, Gestalt and integrative. He specialises in autism, neurodiversity, and regenerative approaches to combat systemic trauma and fragmentation of consciousness - aiming to empower clients to embrace their uniquenesses and see past any unhelpful aspects of labels and categorising. This year he is launching his book the Autism Dialogue Approach Handbook. Jonny has had a broad range of experience including psychedelics in the 80's and academic training including in Contemporary Fine Art and Executive Coaching. Since a child he's been strongly drawn to eastern wisdom traditions and philosophy from all over the world. He was in a Turkish Sufi order for 23 years, during which he spent many silent retreats including 40 days alone, which was his main enabler for seeing society from the outside. Nowadays he mainly gravitates round Sufism, Zen and Advaita and is equally at home in a Buddhist temple, mosque, English pub or on his motorcycle riding round the Peak District. He's recently been a guest on Mind and Life Europe's Core Enaction programme and is writing the Autism Dialogue Approach Handbook for a major publisher. #DavidBohm #BohmDialogue #Autism #AutismDialogue #HumanConsciousness #CollectiveThinking #LostInLanguage #Listening For further information please visit https://www.creatingmeaning.club/