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📌 What separates leaders who burn out… from those who finish strong? In this episode of the God Seeker Podcast, Pastor Joe Martin sits down with Pastor Steve Murrell, founding president of Every Nation Churches & Ministries, to unpack the mindset, strategy, and spiritual depth it takes to finish well and hand off leadership with wisdom and clarity. 👉 Whether you're a pastor, ministry founder, entrepreneur, or emerging leader, this conversation is packed with practical insights and personal stories from over 40 years of global ministry. 🔥 Topics We Cover: What it means to go from a mission field to a mission force Why clarity is the #1 responsibility of senior leaders How to identify and develop homegrown leaders Navigating leadership transitions with grace and intentionality Why storytelling is a powerful tool to preserve church culture The power of apostolic preaching, prayer, and pastoring How to leave a spiritual legacy for your children and grandchildren 🎯 If you’re dreaming of longevity in leadership or preparing for succession, this episode is for you. 📘 Featuring insights from Steve’s new book The Leadership Runway — a must-read for leaders transitioning into a new season or raising up the next generation. Find out more here: https://stevemurrell.com/ Check out Steve Murrell's messages from Trinity Dallas here: https://www.youtube.com/live/oDIMYrhq... https://www.youtube.com/live/mYwG172M... • Who Does God Say You Are? | Pastor Steve M... Subscribe for more faith-filled conversations every week and tap the bell icon to be notified when new episodes release. / @pastorjoemartin Like this episode? Leave a comment, hit the like button, and share this with a friend. About Pastor Joe Joe Martin Jr. is the lead pastor of Trinity Dallas, a vibrant church he and his wife Nancy founded in 1995 with a vision to make disciples and reach the next generation. Known for his passionate preaching and bold leadership, Joe launched The God Seeker Podcast to help people hear God’s voice, grow in faith, and live out their calling with confidence and purpose. Joe and Nancy live in Dallas, where they continue to lead Trinity Dallas with heart and vision. Through the local church, global ministry, and media, Pastor Joe is committed to equipping believers to walk closely with God and make a lasting impact. Connect with Pastor Joe Website: https://trinitydallas.com/the-god-see... Instagram: / pastorjoemartin Facebook: / pastorjoemartin YouTube Chapters [0:00] - Welcome [01:47] - Reflecting on the Presence Conference [02:39] - Discipleship and the Power of God [05:25] - Apostolic Gathering in Singapore [06:04] - The Call to Make Disciples [07:07] - Writing the Book on Church Mission [09:14] - The Importance of Foundational Practices [10:49] - Same Old Boring Strokes in Discipleship [14:19] - Accidental Church Planting in the Philippines [16:46] - Empowering Local Leaders [18:03] - Early Days in Manila [19:23] - 40 Years of Ministry in the Philippines [20:10] - Planting Churches Amidst Political Turmoil [21:11] - The Human Heart and the Gospel [21:56] - Experiencing God's Presence [23:06] - The Cloud of God's Presence [24:50] - From Mission Field to Mission Force [26:11] - Filipino Missionaries in 40 Nations [27:26] - Apostolic Preaching and Prayer [28:44] - Apostolic Pastors and Geographic Expansion [29:39] - Embracing the Abrahamic Covenant [31:23] - Returning to School for Leadership Transition [33:23] - Post-Founder Sustainability [34:11] - Preparing Emerging Leaders [35:05] - The Importance of Clear Values [36:23] - Preparing the Organization for New Leadership [36:53] - Founders Finishing Strong [37:55] - Financial Preparation for Transition [38:23] - Removing Team Members for New Leadership [39:11] - Matching Gift Mix with Leadership Needs [39:46] - Developing a Leadership Pipeline [41:16] - Homegrown Leaders vs. Imports [42:14] - Flexible Structures in Ministry [42:57] - Defining Non-Negotiables [45:12] - Maintaining Mission and Vision [46:07] - Clear Statements of Faith [49:12] - The Power of Storytelling [49:51] - Grandfather Stories and Generosity [50:11] - Keeping Culture Alive Through Stories [52:25] - Mentoring the Next Generation [53:50] - Building a Church for the Next Generation